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Denver 25-11-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 10361301)
Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

Not really its pretty much fresh everything

Zizu 25-11-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10361280)
Omg we love jokes from the 60s.



Sadly it's perfectly true ..

I don't like change at the best of times ..


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Marsh. 25-11-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10361313)
Sadly it's perfectly true ..

I don't like change at the best of times ..


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You look great for 80. :love:

Zizu 25-11-2018 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10361362)
You look great for 80. :love:



60...


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Ashley. 25-11-2018 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10361217)
Also, and I hate to say it, I'm sick of Jodie. The same scenes/monotonous dialogue over and over. I like her but she's not being directed/scripted well AT ALL.

She's extremely non-threatening, if anything. And that isn't a jab at her being a woman... she portrays anger as though she is in a panto. I just can't take it seriously.

Scarlett. 25-11-2018 09:19 PM

While this episode wont go down as super amazing, it was decent enough. It's amazing what a few episodes without Chibbers writing does for the show.

user104658 26-11-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 10361301)
Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since David Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

Err you should watch Matt Smith just because he's excellent :idc:. Capaldi is good too though it took me half a season to warm to him.

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 10361489)
She's extremely non-threatening, if anything. And that isn't a jab at her being a woman... she portrays anger as though she is in a panto. I just can't take it seriously.

Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

Glenn. 26-11-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10361882)
Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

This is what I’m still waiting for. That moment. Its something that’s been bothering me from the start. We’re nearly 9 episodes in now something needs to happen.

Marsh. 26-11-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10361882)
Err you should watch Matt Smith just because he's excellent :idc:. Capaldi is good too though it took me half a season to warm to him.



Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

Tbh the Doctor has become a bit of a background character in her own show.

Scarlett. 26-11-2018 10:45 AM

I feel pretty sorry for Jodie, its hard enough being the first female Doctor, but she's also the worst written Doctor in the modern series too. She's a decent Doctor, if only they'd give her the proper material.

Nicky91 26-11-2018 11:25 AM

i liked the episode last night, Alan Cumming a good laugh as King James I :laugh2: legend :clap2:

mud alien zombies looked cool, great special effects and make up design


Jodie has her own style of playing the doctor, i think some of you just need to get used to the fact this is our first female doctor, while it Always has been a male doctor

Morgan. 26-11-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10361982)
i liked the episode last night, Alan Cumming a good laugh as King James I :laugh2: legend :clap2:

mud alien zombies looked cool, great special effects and make up design


Jodie has her own style of playing the doctor, i think some of you just need to get used to the fact this is our first female doctor, while it Always has been a male doctor

The fact she's female has nothing to do with it. It's bad because it's poorly written not because she's a bad actress. Any potential male doctor shortlisted for this series would've struggled with this.

Marsh. 26-11-2018 11:33 AM

I had issues with Capaldi being sidelined in his own series too. But this time it's not even to service a story/character arc with the companions.

The whole lot of them feel like extras. It's not really the number of companions either, we've had several people on the Tardis at once before.

Even bloody Journey's End managed to give good focus to about 12 characters!

The writing is abysmal.

How Tosin Cole gets cast in anything is beyond me. The accent just makes it worse!

Marsh. 26-11-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10361986)
The fact she's female has nothing to do with it. It's bad because it's poorly written not because she's a bad actress. Any potential male doctor shortlisted for this series would've struggled with this.

This.

I have no issue and think the one good thing Jodie has done is prove the Doctor is kind of genderless. The character has always been played neutral in that respect. And her being female is not even an issue.

The writing for her, however, is nowhere near strong enough.

Morgan. 26-11-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10361990)
This.

I have no issue and think the one good thing Jodie has done is prove the Doctor is kind of genderless. The character has always been played neutral in that respect. And her being female is not even an issue.

The writing for her, however, is nowhere near strong enough.

I feel bad that she's being branded a bad actress - because with an amazing script she's really shines. He performance in Trust Me was incredible, and I've seen some of her short films on YouTube that are amazing and her diversity of character is brilliant.

Also I think the fact she was never a fan of the show and had only watched the odd episode has hindered her. David, Matt and Peter had all grown up with the show and/or been massive fans. Not sure about Christopher, but I'd assume he was the same.

She said she was gonna do a binge of them all after this one airs because she doesn't want to be influenced by the other actors but instead she's kind of just taking traits that have already been done without realising, instead of filling the blanks and creating her own version of the Doctor.

Oliver_W 26-11-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10361987)
How Tosin Cole gets cast in anything is beyond me. The accent just makes it worse!

I could barely understand him last night.

Nicky91 26-11-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10362005)
I could barely understand him last night.

i was more distracted by Alan's funny voice :laugh:

he still is a legend, after James Bond's Goldeneye Boris ''I am Invincible'' Gryzhenko :clap1: :clap1:

Greg! 26-11-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 10361301)
Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

No! This series is basically a complete reboot

Tom4784 26-11-2018 02:19 PM

It was a decent episode but I'm really hoping that the rumours of Chibnall's exit prove true, he is a woeful writer and the series, aside from a few high points, has floundered under him.

One thing that's starting to really bother me about Jodie's doctor is how the writers seem intent on making her seem incompetent half the time, she can barely control the tardis, she's scattered and seems to get lucky all the time and they've given her none of the control that the other doctors have and to give the first female doctor that kind of characterisation is a critical mistake as it just feeds into the criticism of casting a female doctor in the first place.

I thought the stuff about her gender was well handled in this episode but they really need to start writing her as they would any other doctor, let her have her big intimidating moment where you think she could destroy armies with a flick of her screwdriver as well the more human side that Jodie's shown herself to be good at portraying.

I predict, kinda like after Capaldi's first season, they may very well change Jodie's characterisation completely and I'm here for it. Chibnall's take on the doctor is limited and I want to see what Jodie can do when she isn't limited by such a crappy showrunner.

I think the companions need an overhaul too. Keep Graham as he is the only one that works well at the moment and give more stuff to Yazz, the actress who plays her is pretty decent but even in her own episodes they tend to sideline her.

Ryan is a mess from both an acting and writing standpoint and his character being unable to name a single thing he brings to the team in the last episode was apt. He can't act, he adds nothing aside from cliched and poorly timed character 'moments' and his role so far seems to be pointing at things and stating the obvious.

Greg! 26-11-2018 02:26 PM

Yeah it was def a mistake having 3 companions, especially for Jodie's first season. 2 would've been enough

Wizard. 26-11-2018 02:28 PM

Billie Piper is returning as Rose for a radio spin-off!

Greg! 26-11-2018 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10362177)
Billie Piper is returning as Rose for a radio spin-off!

Can she rihturn to the actual show? Miss ha!

Greg! 26-11-2018 02:30 PM

We want miss Donna back as well! I don't care how they do it, but I want her back!

Marsh. 26-11-2018 02:34 PM

Her being unable to control the Tardis I can forgive as it's pretty much a trope of the show that the Doctor doesn't 'drive' it well and it has tendencies to control itself.

But, yeah, in the actual stories it's getting really frustrating that she doesn't seem to know much about anything until she waves the magic sonic and it somehow tells her a ridiculous amount of information because the writers use it lazily to answer any questions.

Kind of strange really because in Tennant's first series I did roll my eyes a bit at how smug and arrogant the Doctor was about knowing things about everything they encountered.

The biggest crime this year is the lack of imaginative storytelling.

Chibnall being more "human drama" would be fine if that wasn't naff too. His dialogue is awful.

Strictly Jake 29-11-2018 05:33 AM

Just watched this latest episode last night. Bit worrying that pendle is like 5 mins away from where I work!!


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