Fair point. As you say, I'd be surprised if any of them didn't have dodgy donors. As for the self-ID thing, as long as she doesn't actually push it forward should she get the position...

she couldn't push it forward on her own and there are enough people in the tory party against it to stop it dead in it's tracks, so i don't even know why it's being discussed to be honest other than to try and create mistrust toward her

I think all the candidates are grim in one respect or another, i just find it interesting that the knives are out for her

Please don't let it be Rishi who wins.

That's all I'd say. Maybe Tom or Penny for PM.

It should be the general public who decide anyway!!

So much for living on a democracy

they get their opportunity at the GE

No
New Labour Tony Blair gave his job to Gordon Brown



NO ELECTION then

Was there TC

and it was disaster

Yes he got scared of an Election

whoever wins the leadership doesn't have to call an election for 2 years but they will nevertheless. Their ego will make them call an election within a year

IDS

Put the boot into Penny
He has no idea what she achieved while being in Government

On SkyNewsHD Ridge 8:30AM Full show
I record

Starting to look like they all think Penny has it in the bag.
Nasty politics.

I agree ... just more dirty political tactics

This is precisely why I hate politics


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Not really - if the MPs choose the two we get to vote for ..


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Times Radio DAB
now has permission to play the 8PM SkyNewsHD Live
Tuesday Conservative Leaders debate in full
could be just 2 of them, by then.

Good news
it is also Free Online on youtube in Full HD 1080P

Why would they risk losing everything in a general election that they may well lose.

We know that they are all selfish, self-serving individuals


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Brown, May and Boris all called an election. They do it because their ego makes them believe they can win it easily. Also, timing wise, an early election is probably advisable before everyone really starts to suffer

It makes no sense to me but I know diddly squat squared about politics


I certainly wouldn’t.. I’d spend two years sorting the main problems out to give us a better chance of winning


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How is it not democratic? Prime Ministers aren't elected, they're the leader of the party with the most MPs. The Conservative party currently is the largest party, so it's democratic that the PM is a Tory.

Random but it's interesting how every PM since and including Thatcher resigned before their current term was up.

I was thinking last week that Penny was PM material but her performance the other night was terrible.

She stood there and looked like a block of wood. Had no enthusiasm at all.

And whatever she said, just sounded like she had rehearsed it all.

But something else: WHY THIS obsession with what a woman is??? I don't care what a woman is or what a man is. Such braindead debate. The media are obsessed with it. Julia on Talk TV gets her knickers in a twist every day about it. Get a life! :p

The real issue is the cost of living crisis!

But Penny will definitely have to up her game tonight or she could go in 4th place.

**Also, I don't get the love for Badenoch. To me, she comes across as bland and 'meh'.

But she is painted as some kind of saviour. Crazy. Who is behind this tripe? Who is promoting this dross?

NEXT! :p

Yes will ITV put Kemi next to her again
tonight?

Yes.

there aren't any stand out politicians from any party at the moment, mainly i think, because they are all career politicians

I just laughed at Sunak.

He said to Penny, where was she gonna get the money from for her financial plans. She missed a trick there. She should have told Sunak she WOULD have been able to use the £12 BILLION he gave away to fraud and wrote off.

Sunak is running to put right the mess he created. :joker::joker: