ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums

ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Chat (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   Controversial opinions (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238745)

MTVN 05-04-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6781596)
..yeah, that used to be my thought process as well/that they were beneficial because of tourism but I'm not so sure anymore because I think the history of the monarchy is preserved anyway and tourists would still come to see that...I'm not sure that the current monarchy itself is really necessary, their homes etc are all partially open to the public and that's probably what they come to see/it would just be 'where the monarchy used to live/how they lived' rather than, they live here/spend time here...

...the weddings etc do attract much interest from all over the world and therefore visitors..but when they're often made into public holidays, they also lose a lot of revenue....


..I'm not 'anti-monarchy' as such, I'm just not convinced that we need them so much anymore...thay often seem more 'celebrity-ish..'....

The fact that we still have our monarchy though means that the landmarks aren't just relics of a bygone era like they would be in other countries, but they represent a lot more strongly the identity and the history of our country. It means they hold a great deal more relevance imo, and that they stand as a testament to the continuity of monarchy and its continued role in the UK and the world as a whole. Without the monarch you also lose all the ongoing traditions that still surround them, like the changing of the guard still gets watched by hundreds of people every time even though it happens so frequently.

And even with the losses taken into account I believe the royal wedding still boosted London's economy by £100m, I expect the jubilee was of similar benefit as well and there will have been a lot more jobs created to accommodate the tourism increase.

Ammi 05-04-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6781604)
The fact that we still have our monarchy though means that the landmarks aren't just relics of a bygone era like they would be in other countries, but they represent a lot more strongly the identity and the history of our country. It means they hold a great deal more relevance imo, and that they stand as a testament to the continuity of monarchy and its continued role in the UK and the world as a whole. Without the monarch you also lose all the ongoing traditions that still surround them, like the changing of the guard still gets watched by hundreds of people every time even though it happens so frequently.

And even with the losses taken into account I believe the royal wedding still boosted London's economy by £100m, I expect the jubilee was of similar benefit as well and there will have been a lot more jobs created to accommodate the tourism increase.


..hmmm, I'm still not sure that we need a monarchy in place to preserve the monarchy though...and I think the whole British monarchy through time has pretty good references anyway to still attract the same sort of tourism...I don't think any 'interest ' will wane...but obviously nothing is certain about that...but people don't go to Stratford and expect to see Shakespeare writing as they don't for any 'historic site' which have been and are very well preserved...I don't think that there will be much 'Royal' that would disappear enough for people to stop coming and there are many, many other things to offer anyway..but of course the Royal houses would be something they would also want to see and they still could..anyway, I probably should have gone shopping hours ago to spend some of those coins with the lovely Royal head on them and I don't really have strong feelings either way anyway, it's more that the truth's post got me to think whether we do still need them so much and how much change there would actually be if they didn't exist in the same way they do atm....

Samm 05-04-2014 10:28 AM

Welsh people annoy me

Samm 05-04-2014 10:29 AM

Michael Jackson is overrated

Samm 05-04-2014 10:30 AM

I don't like burger king

Samm 05-04-2014 10:33 AM

That's so raven > Breaking Bad

Vicky. 05-04-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 6781105)
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...

I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....

ADHD used to be just known as badly behaved kids. I know some kids actually do have it, but I also think a large number are diagnosed with it when they dont actually have it and are just little shits

Ramsay 05-04-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6781616)
Michael Jackson is overrated

:amazed:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6781617)
I don't like burger king

D:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6781618)
That's so raven > Breaking Bad

D: D: D: D:

Me. I Am Salman 05-04-2014 11:39 AM

Michael Jackson >>>>

Brother Leon 05-04-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6781640)
Michael Jackson >>>>

Confirmed.

Natalie. 05-04-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6781618)
That's so raven > Breaking Bad

D:

lily. 05-04-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 6781105)
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...

I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....

Again.. we agree.

This is becoming a habit, Caitlin.

MTVN 05-04-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6781609)
..hmmm, I'm still not sure that we need a monarchy in place to preserve the monarchy though...and I think the whole British monarchy through time has pretty good references anyway to still attract the same sort of tourism...I don't think any 'interest ' will wane...but obviously nothing is certain about that...but people don't go to Stratford and expect to see Shakespeare writing as they don't for any 'historic site' which have been and are very well preserved...I don't think that there will be much 'Royal' that would disappear enough for people to stop coming and there are many, many other things to offer anyway..but of course the Royal houses would be something they would also want to see and they still could..anyway, I probably should have gone shopping hours ago to spend some of those coins with the lovely Royal head on them and I don't really have strong feelings either way anyway, it's more that the truth's post got me to think whether we do still need them so much and how much change there would actually be if they didn't exist in the same way they do atm....

I don't think it would though, places like Versailles or the Winter Palace may still attract interest and serve as sort of museums but there's not the same intrigue about them created by the fact there is still a reigning monarch at Buckingham palace. Also with Shakespeare well he is an individual of interest but his legacy remains in print, the legacy of the monarchy exists much more in outward physical symbols I think and this whole idea of lineage and dynasty. I also think with the UK the monarchy is our main selling point really, most of the main attractions are royal related and its hard to see them retaining the same intrigue if we decided we don't really want our royal family anymore. Think that we often forget how much interest other countries take in our monarchy, a lot of them may think its stupid but royal occasions also make massive news in a lot of places and turn the eyes of the world on Britain.

This is all speculation of course but I genuinely think we would lose a hell of a lot from getting rid of our monarchy

the truth 05-04-2014 01:19 PM

The monarchy represent nothing but pure evil, from
mass murders, to world wars, to land clearances, potatoe
famines, rape and pillage, evile empires....torture chambers....endless theft, total destruction of our constitution. the monarchy itself owns 2 million acres of our land, they even billions of pounds worth of da vinci paintings which the world never gets to see? and his many inventions, sketches etc this is just the tip of the iceberg

they are at the heart of corrupting totally our so called democracy. ultimately certain people in the UK are unaccountable, because the crown is unaccountable becuase they are the law. so anyone working for them ultimately is above the law.

to think we sing our national anthem for them instead of each our and forefathers and mothers, our friends and family and our wonderful land sickeens me to the core of my being. oh lets keep the mass murderers to open museums and have the odd tacky wedding which we pay for? even all the figures regarding their expenses and security costs are all lies. it costs us millions every time they go or do anything.
theyre an appalling example to everyone. even now when they still own the land of the bbc and control much of the media agenda....they still hunt and kill endless animals, yet preach to us on the other hand about saving animals and sit on these charities. only yesterday princess anne was banging on about gassing badgetrs in case of any tb...how humane anne>? theyre a disgusting bunch of freeloading parasites

Ramsay 05-04-2014 02:52 PM

Big Bang Theory is one of the worse sitcoms ever created and Sheldon is one of the most annoying unlikeable characters ever also
I never get tired of saying it

Black Dagger 05-04-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6781618)
That's so raven > Breaking Bad

lmfao.

Gstar 05-04-2014 02:54 PM

watched midsomer murders for the first time and it's an absolute hot mess

Ninastar 05-04-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6781626)
ADHD used to be just known as badly behaved kids. I know some kids actually do have it, but I also think a large number are diagnosed with it when they dont actually have it and are just little shits

thank you for saying it, but this...

and L, we should just get married tbh

arista 05-04-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germyle (Post 6781897)
watched midsomer murders for the first time and it's an absolute hot mess


Its Sold Worldwide
in high demand

Shaun 05-04-2014 03:12 PM

i don't like ellen degeneres

she bores me

Ramsay 05-04-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6781913)
i don't like ellen degeneres

she bores me

but shaun...the table dance


Jake. 05-04-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6781891)
Big Bang Theory is one of the worse sitcoms ever created and Sheldon is one of the most annoying unlikeable characters ever also
I never get tired of saying it

yasssss, HIMYM is also awful

Samm 05-04-2014 03:19 PM

keith lemon is an overrated, unfunny sh*t

Ammi 05-04-2014 03:49 PM

..my ‘controversial’ opinion...I don’t think that I’ve ever known a child be diagnosed with a ‘disorder’ when they didn’t genuinely have one..often it takes a long time for a diagnosis and different things can be tested for because one disorder can be ‘suspected’ but it could turn out to be something else and this is discovered over time and with lots of organisations involved/care around the child and through many tests...there are many children who are just ‘naughty’ but that’s completely different and naughty’ children are still capable of learning, which is not always so for children with a behaviour disorder because their disorder prevents them from doing this...they forget stuff/have huge difficulties in concentration/are restless etc and basicially quite unhappy and confused children and with that, it manifests in anger/irritation because they just don’t have the same understanding as a child without a behavioural disorder would...school is a nightmare for them/social situations are a nightmare...just often any interaction with people/other children...but anywhere with ‘structure’ is particularly hard....although personally I’m quite dubious about medication being the ‘first treatment’, rather than trying different therapies...( that is getting less common now though..)...because they are such ‘mind sedating’ drugs, which can also hinder learning..I do feel quite strongly that so long as children are dismissed as ‘naughty’ without looking into what the reason for that behaviour is, then it’s basically denying them an education because they won’t get the help that they need for their understanding of things and also how to learn to be able to ‘control’ their disorder themselves over time...and it then continues on and on and into adult life with them always feeling like ‘outsiders’ and can develop into other 'disabilities' which can completely restrict their lives in many ways...also I should have said that most of the time, the whole family of the child feels isolated because the child can’t easily form friendships and parents are understandably ‘put off’ from inviting those children into their homes and ‘encouraging’ their children in an understanding of ‘the world of a child with a behaviour disorder’..anyway, it’s something that I feel extremely passionate about so it’s probably best if I just bow out of the thread/topic...

Gstar 05-04-2014 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6781901)
Its Sold Worldwide
in high demand

its still shit


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:55 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.