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arista 29-01-2021 12:12 AM

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arista 29-01-2021 12:14 AM

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arista 29-01-2021 12:16 AM

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LaLaLand 29-01-2021 12:19 AM

The Novovax news is brilliant to hear - almost 90% effectiveness is incredible.

My sister (key worker who lives with us) is having her jab Monday, she found out today.

Cherie 29-01-2021 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10992350)
The Novovax news is brilliant to hear - almost 90% effectiveness is incredible.

My sister (key worker who lives with us) is having her jab Monday, she found out today.

That’s brilliant, all the teaching and support staff from the special school I used to work at have been called as well

Cherie 29-01-2021 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10992349)

Maybe she can give them the vaccine destined for Scotland :shrug:

Cherie 29-01-2021 07:26 AM

Nicola Sturgeon has said she will publish confidential data on the supply of coronavirus vaccines, despite Boris Johnson’s pleas for her to keep quiet. The Scottish First Minister said she would reveal the figures in response to claims she is failing to roll out the jab fast enough in her country. This lead to accusation of her siding with the EU, who are currently locked in a standoff with Britain over its supply of the vaccine made by Oxford and AstraZeneca. At a time when Brussels are demanding millions of the UK’s doses because deliveries of theirs were delayed, Sturgeon was called ‘deeply irresponsible’ by Scottish Tory leader Douglas Ross for putting her politics first.
During a visit to Scotland today, Boris Johnson said he favoured ‘maximum possible transparency’ but said Britain must ‘continue to have national security of supply’. It is feared revealing the details could aggravate tensions with the EU and other parts of the world and lead to supplies being diverted.




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Nicky91 29-01-2021 08:07 AM

don't trust AstraZeneca

you don't even know yet if that is very effective

Mystic Mock 29-01-2021 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10992350)
The Novovax news is brilliant to hear - almost 90% effectiveness is incredible.

My sister (key worker who lives with us) is having her jab Monday, she found out today.

And it was made with Novo's help too.:dance:

Congratulations to your Sister btw.:)

user104658 29-01-2021 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10992371)
Nicola Sturgeon has said she will publish confidential data on the supply of coronavirus vaccines, despite Boris Johnson’s pleas for her to keep quiet. The Scottish First Minister said she would reveal the figures in response to claims she is failing to roll out the jab fast enough in her country. This lead to accusation of her siding with the EU, who are currently locked in a standoff with Britain over its supply of the vaccine made by Oxford and AstraZeneca. At a time when Brussels are demanding millions of the UK’s doses because deliveries of theirs were delayed, Sturgeon was called ‘deeply irresponsible’ by Scottish Tory leader Douglas Ross for putting her politics first.

During a visit to Scotland today, Boris Johnson said he favoured ‘maximum possible transparency’ but said Britain must ‘continue to have national security of supply’. It is feared revealing the details could aggravate tensions with the EU and other parts of the world and lead to supplies being diverted.









Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/28/nicol...1/?ito=cbshare

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Boris: *uses Covid vaccination schedule as petty anti-independence political propaganda*

Nicola: "I'll release the figures?"

Boris: "Hey! Stop putting your politics first!"

:bored: :idc:

Cherie 29-01-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10992393)
Boris: *uses Covid vaccination schedule as petty anti-independence political propaganda*

Nicola: "I'll release the figures?"

Boris: "Hey! Stop putting your politics first!"

:bored: :idc:

Bit different isn’t it? St Nicola is happy to upset the vaccine schedule and let people die for her own political ends :idc:

Nicky91 29-01-2021 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10992397)
Bit different isn’t it? St Nicola is happy to upset the vaccine schedule and let people die for her own political ends :idc:

you need to know every bit of information about vaccines, so yes of course release those figures


where a mistake was made with AstraZeneca what we know nothing about

Cherie 29-01-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10992399)
you need to know every bit of information about vaccines, so yes of course release those figures


where a mistake was made with AstraZeneca what we know nothing about

Don’t worry about it, it’s not approved for use in the EU

Ammi 29-01-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10992350)
The Novovax news is brilliant to hear - almost 90% effectiveness is incredible.

My sister (key worker who lives with us) is having her jab Monday, she found out today.

...wonderful news with your sister, LaLa...:love:..

Cherie 29-01-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10992326)
UK phase three trials of the experimental Novavax COVID-19 vaccine have found it demonstrated 89.3% efficacy against the virus.

Preliminary analysis showed the new UK variant was detected in more than half of the coronavirus cases recorded in the trials, with the vaccine candidate shown to be 95.6% effective against the original strain and 85.6% effective against the variant.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency will start to assess the vaccination straight away.

The study involved more than 15,000 participants aged 18 to 84, with 27% aged over 65.

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An early stage study carried out on 4,400 people in South Africa has shown that the Novavax treatment has "significant clinical efficacy" against the South African variant of the virus.

The UK has already ordered 60 million vials of the vaccine which will be manufactured at the Fujifilm plant in Stockton-on-Tees.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ctive-12201756

This one came out of nowhere huh, wonder how many more vaccines are nearly there

AnnieK 29-01-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10992399)
you need to know every bit of information about vaccines, so yes of course release those figures


where a mistake was made with AstraZeneca what we know nothing about

What mistake was made?

arista 29-01-2021 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10992350)
The Novovax news is brilliant to hear - almost 90% effectiveness is incredible.

My sister (key worker who lives with us) is having her jab Monday, she found out today.




[COVID-19: Fourth vaccine could be approved
in weeks as trial shows it is effective against UK variant
The extensive study showed that the Novavax jab
offered 86% protection against the
new British strain of COVID-19.]

A fourth COVID-19 vaccine could be approved
for use in the UK within weeks after
late-stage trials suggested it was 89% effective
in preventing coronavirus.
The prime minister has said the Novavax jab
is now going to be assessed by the Medicines
and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).
If approved, the vaccine would start to be rolled
out in the second half of 2021.
The UK has already ordered 60 million doses,
which are going to be manufactured in Stockton-on-Tees.
(Novavax is a USA brand)]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...riant-12201833

arista 29-01-2021 09:19 AM

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joeysteele 29-01-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10992399)
you need to know every bit of information about vaccines, so yes of course release those figures


where a mistake was made with AstraZeneca what we know nothing about

I personally agree we all should have all the information there is known about any and all of the vaccines.

It's odd to me that the Welsh First Minister was going to release figures.
Then Johnson's pressure has had him decide not to.

It's amazing then that because Sturgeon is still intending to do so, why that's playing politics or endangering lives just to relay figures and information.

Of course it will be overlooked as likely missed opportunities, the lives Johnson and his Ministers have lost unnecessarily via their incompetence.
As usual.

Sturgeon wasn't going to be the only one releasing figures, maybe there's room for debate on the other aspects of the story.

I have to again agree with the basic point and comment from TS.
Also your own above.
Your first line absolutely right.

Of course getting true figures and all relevant information has been totally lacking all through from the UK government.
One of the main criticisms levelled at it all through this pandemic across the board.

Except from the diehard Con supporters however across all media.

All vaccine news, should be positive and welcomed.
Plus congratulations to all who've put in endless efforts to get them.
Even to the government on it's ambitious plans of vaccination too.

However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have all figures and information as to all the vaccines really.
With nothing withheld.

Why would anyone want information and figures withheld from the people who will be getting the vaccines?
Maybe that's the real question.
That perhaps Johnson should answer but as with all questions, he likely never will.
He seems possibly quite a control freak does Johnson.

smudgie 29-01-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10992406)
This one came out of nowhere huh, wonder how many more vaccines are nearly there

We heard about this one a fair time ago, but then it is being developed and manufactured on our doorstep.

AnnieK 29-01-2021 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10992423)
I personally agree we all should have all the information there is known about any and all of the vaccines.

It's odd to me that the Welsh First Minister was going to release figures.
Then Johnson's pressure has had him decide not to.

It's amazing then that because Sturgeon is still intending to do so, why that's playing politics or endangering lives just to relay figures and information.

Of course it will be overlooked as likely missed opportunities, the lives Johnson and his Ministers have lost unnecessarily via their incompetence.
As usual.

Sturgeon wasn't going to be the only one releasing figures, maybe there's room for debate on the other aspects of the story.

I have to again agree with the basic point and comment from TS.
Also your own above.
Your first line absolutely right.

Of course getting true figures and all relevant information has been totally lacking all through from the UK government.
One of the main criticisms levelled at it all through this pandemic across the board.

Except from the diehard Con supporters however across all media.

All vaccine news, should be positive and welcomed.
Plus congratulations to all who've put in endless efforts to get them.
Even to the government on it's ambitious plans of vaccination too.

However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have all figures and information as to all the vaccines really.
With nothing withheld.

Why would anyone want information and figures withheld from the people who will be getting the vaccines?
Maybe that's the real question.
That perhaps Johnson should answer but as with all questions, he likely never will.
He seems possibly quite a control freak does Johnson.

To be fair, and I am far from a Boris fan, he is trying to protect our own national vaccine scheme surely? The UK contract is none of the EUs business and if the roles were reversed there would be no transparency from them I'm sure. Nicola is well within her rights to release her own information as the leader of Scotland, I'm just not really sure why she feels the need to. The EU are effectively trying to reduce the UK supply which will impact on her citizens.

I may very well be missing something. From my understanding Nicola is going to share details of our contracts, I don't think we are withholding any info on efficacy or uptake but it feels to me very much like the EU is trying to bully AZ and the UK as they are bigger than us.

Cherie 29-01-2021 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10992425)
To be fair, and I am far from a Boris fan, he is trying to protect our own national vaccine scheme surely? The UK contract is none of the EUs business and if the roles were reversed there would be no transparency from them I'm sure. Nicola is well within her rights to release her own information as the leader of Scotland, I'm just not really sure why she feels the need to. The EU are effectively trying to reduce the UK supply which will impact on her citizens.

I may very well be missing something. From my understanding Nicola is going to share details of our contracts, I don't think we are withholding any info on efficacy or uptake but it feels to me very much like the EU is trying to bully AZ and the UK as they are bigger than us.

In a nutshell, its about supply figures not efficacy

Are they asking Israel who have vaccinated 20% of their population with Pfizer for their supply contracts..nope

arista 29-01-2021 10:39 AM

Yes the Vaccine Supply went down around 20%
this week.

Lets hope next week we can get back on track.

Cherie 29-01-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10992424)
We heard about this one a fair time ago, but then it is being developed and manufactured on our doorstep.

ah right Smudge, I hadn't heard of it

Denver 29-01-2021 11:21 AM

2 British made vaccines who would have thought that aye


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