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arista 26-05-2022 10:08 AM

Kate Moss was great
proving Amber talks utter rubbish.

Vanessa 26-05-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11169734)
Kate Moss was great
proving Amber talks utter rubbish.

I cheered :cheer2:

arista 26-05-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11169735)
I cheered :cheer2:


Yes
Nice of her to give her time,



It Concludes tomorrow


Johnny is the Winner

Vanessa 26-05-2022 10:12 AM

Its very hard to prove a defamation case.
I personally can't see either of them winning their lawsuits.
But at least now the world knows everything.
Not just Amber version of it.

ThomasC 26-05-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11169737)
Its very hard to prove a defamation case.
I personally can't see either of them winning their lawsuits.
But at least now the world knows everything.
Not just Amber version of it.

I think that with all the support Johnny has got that he will be OK. Got to ask yourself why the majority of people support him with everything we have heard and seen.

As for Amber, I can't see any publication, production company etc wanting to touch her with a bargepole. If someone is instantly disliked by the majority then why would they want to use her, they just wouldn't. Good popularity sells and makes money.

Beso 26-05-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11169626)
You get the ‘Tourette’s’ - ‘Bollox’ joke I hope
:)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro



Who knows maybe he has tourrettes when he types..


"I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I once thought was love for this gold digging, low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market... I'm so f---ing happy she wants to fight this out!!! She will hit the wall hard!!! And I cannot wait to have this waste of a c-- guzzler out of my life!!!" read the message.

Continuing, the text message referred to Heard as a "50 cent stripper" "I wouldn't touch her with a goddam glove. I can only hope that karma kicks in and takes the gift of breath from her."

Vanessa 26-05-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169740)
I think that with all the support Johnny has got that he will be OK. Got to ask yourself why the majority of people support him with everything we have heard and seen.

As for Amber, I can't see any publication, production company etc wanting to touch her with a bargepole. If someone is instantly disliked by the majority then why would they want to use her, they just wouldn't. Good popularity sells and makes money.

And Robert Downey Junior wants him in his next Sherlock Holmes movie. Brilliant!

ThomasC 26-05-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11169741)
Who knows maybe he has tourrettes when he types..


"I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I once thought was love for this gold digging, low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market... I'm so f---ing happy she wants to fight this out!!! She will hit the wall hard!!! And I cannot wait to have this waste of a c-- guzzler out of my life!!!" read the message.

Continuing, the text message referred to Heard as a "50 cent stripper" "I wouldn't touch her with a goddam glove. I can only hope that karma kicks in and takes the gift of breath from her."

Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.

bots 26-05-2022 10:42 AM

it's got to be finishing soon

Liam- 26-05-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11169748)
it's got to be finishing soon

Goes to the jury tomorrow

ThomasC 26-05-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11169750)
Goes to the jury tomorrow

And I'm working!!:fist:

I wish I was academically gifted and could become a lawyer.

Very competitive industry and a lot of hard work.

user104658 26-05-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169747)
Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.

Me being shocked that ThomasC thinks those comments about women are acceptable from a man "so long as he's angry enough";

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Beso 26-05-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169747)
Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.

Hes a different man to the one we see on screen when he gets angry.

Beso 26-05-2022 11:00 AM

Last time I know of him getting angry was when an old business colleague was about to sue him for something to do with the viper rooms..poor bloke ain't been seen since!!

ThomasC 26-05-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11169762)
Hes a different man to the one we see on screen when he gets angry.

Ummmm ok :conf:

Beso 26-05-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169769)
Ummmm ok :conf:

You're confused, about something blatantly obvious.

Strange.

ThomasC 26-05-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11169752)
Me being shocked that ThomasC thinks those comments about women are acceptable from a man "so long as he's angry enough";

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9007...3665/tenor.gif

I didn't say that I think they're acceptable. They're your words, not mine. I don't know why you're quoting your own words as I didn't say what you quoted.

I said that he was very angry and that I would be too if I had been accused of something I did not do or felt I didn't do.

People are human and say stuff when they are really angry.

I do not excuse what he said or think it is anyway acceptable. I think his words are deragatory and disgusting. Do I understand what might have made him say them? Yes I do. I have empathy and understanding as to what might have lead him to say them, but do not think they are acceptable and neither do I think Johnny thinks they are either as he explained.

ThomasC 26-05-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11169772)
You're confused, about something blatantly obvious.

Strange.

I'm confused as to your comment as what he displays on screen comes from a script and director etc.

It's not comparable to being excused of something he feels he hasn't done. Unless he's previously been cast in a film where he has been excused of such serious allegations.

Niamh. 26-05-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169786)
I didn't say that I think they're acceptable. They're your words, not mine. I don't know why you're quoting your own words as I didn't say what you quoted.

I said that he was very angry and that I would be too if I had been accused of something I did not do or felt I didn't do.

People are human and say stuff when they are really angry.

I do not excuse what he said or think it is anyway acceptable. I think his words are deragatory and disgusting. Do I understand what might have made him say them? Yes I do. I have empathy and understanding as to what might have lead him to say them, but do not think they are acceptable and neither do I think Johnny thinks they are either as he explained.

It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?

user104658 26-05-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11169795)
It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?


It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.

Beso 26-05-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11169787)
I'm confused as to your comment as what he displays on screen comes from a script and director etc.

It's not comparable to being excused of something he feels he hasn't done. Unless he's previously been cast in a film where he has been excused of such serious allegations.

But most of depps acting roles involve him method acting, thus bringing his own take on the role he is playing, Edward scissor hands and of course jack sparrow, along with willy Wonka spring to mind straight away. It's well known the character he brought to proceedings was depp method acting without prompting from the directors.

Depps film persona, and the occasional talk show appearances are the only times we have seen and heard him, so it's really the only way we know him.

So that is why I can only say about him being a different character on film, as its rhe only compatible thing to compare him with his actual self.

Niamh. 26-05-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11169799)
It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.

Exactly. I've never accidentally had a racist out burst when I got angry because it's just not something I would do or say ever, sure I have said things I regretted saying out loud in anger but it was always something that on some level I did think/believe

ThomasC 26-05-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11169795)
It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?

Misogyny? I don't think he hates women, he probably hates Amber Heard for what he says she has done. She just happens to be a woman.

No I would not be as tolerant or understanding, but they're different. What would homophobia and race have to do with alleged domestic violence?

ThomasC 26-05-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11169799)
It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.

I disagree. We can all say spur of the moment things when we're angry, things we haven't thought, said or feel before.if we discover something about someone that we didn't previously know then you're going to be full of new emotions

We're not pre-programmed with thoughts all the time.

ThomasC 26-05-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11169800)
But most of depps acting roles involve him method acting, thus bringing his own take on the role he is playing, Edward scissor hands and of course jack sparrow, along with willy Wonka spring to mind straight away. It's well known the character he brought to proceedings was depp method acting without prompting from the directors.

Depps film persona, and the occasional talk show appearances are the only times we have seen and heard him, so it's really the only way we know him.

So that is why I can only say about him being a different character on film, as its rhe only compatible thing to compare him with his actual self.

Well it's a very blinkered view you have then.

Acting is playing someone else. It's not the actual person, it's a character they have created.

I'm more open minded and can differentiate between the two.


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