Oh and R*pert sucks imo

What really is alarming, though, is that it's almost 2016 and there are still Russell fans :eek:

Agreed.

Plus I would say the same about Spencer but then his fans would all start jumping on me.

I´m not even dignifying myself with a response on the "it´s year 2016 and there are still Russell fans" comment, cause that doesn´t really deserve one. Heard that way too many times.

But yeah, Cirie was a good player, quite dislikable, but a good player. Just not a mastermind.

Re. this point I'd say that outside the likes of will/dan/Rodney types, survivor casts the best males out of all rtv shows, only the apprentice comes close.

:clap1:

I find it easy to root for Survivor males more so than the fairly detestable BB males

Definitely, you wouldn't get iconic males like Shane, Rob C, Randy and Bruce on BB

I mean I kind of feel bad that most of my faves are girls but like 90% of reality TV men suck?

What exactly is there to dislike about her though? She's charming, bubbly, engaging, a good narrator, one of the best strategists we've seen, her gameplay is actually fun to watch, etc.

I don't know, maybe it's just me but I don't get what there is to possibly dislike about Cirie when there are a bunch of other people on this show whose bad qualities are so obvious at surface level.

Survivor has the best male casting out of reality shows definitely. Can´t say about the apprentice, since i have never seen the UK one, only the US one.

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Wow.

Yes :clap1:

There's usually at least one male contestant per season I like

For me, Woo,Jeff,Jeremy,Keith are all good males and I like Spencer and Savage too when he's targeting Stephen :clap1:

If we're really getting into evaluating Russell vs. Sandra in S20, the jury as a whole made it no secret that they LOVED Sandra and she spent the whole game trying to save their asses. Russell let her reach the final TC, she told the jury exactly what they wanted to hear, they gave her $1,000,000. It wasn't really by default at all, Russell just once again underestimated a "dumb woman."

^ I didn´t say anything other than Wow, meaning i was surprised Cirie had that opinion. I wasn´t comparing Russell and Sandra, that was all you.

I thought everyone of Heroes vs Villains despised Russell for whatever reason. So much so, that even if he played a game deserving of a win, they still wouldn´t have voted for him to win.

Survivor does have good men, like taking the last four seasons, now we have Jeff, Jeremy, Woo, then Keith and Stephen are okay. In WA we had Mike, then Joaquin and Joe were ok imo, in SJDS Jon and Jeremy were great, Drew and Keith were OK, in Cagayan Woo was great and I liked Brice and Tony.

Then when you look at per say the last four seasons of BBUS, we've only had James, Jason, Donny, Hayden, Howard and Dan.

Mike is a modern Saint

Oh yeah there's no denying Survivor produces better male contestant than any other RTV show, but compared the the amount of amazing female contestants they produce, the male proportion is still quite small and I find myself only ever rooting for 1 or 2 males per season.

Don't forget Jon Misch <3

Males I've liked from the past few seasons:
Blood vs. Water: John Cody, Hayden (and I didn't like him on BB)
Cagayan: Tony, Brice, Woo
SJDS: Jeremy, Keith, Jon, Drew
Worlds Apart: King Mike (<333), Joe, Vince

Not to mention the godly males from previous seasons like Greg, Richard Hatch, Sean, Rob C, Rupert, Shane, Tom Westman, Yau-Man, Randy, Coach pre-South Pacific, Chase Rice etc.

Eddie Foxy :lovedup: >>

When Survivor cast wacky males <3

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I'd generally say I'm pretty even when it comes to male/female support unless it's a recent BBUS season cos sweet Jesus they've cast some awful fellas lately.

This reminds me of:
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