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Jack_ 25-11-2016 01:12 PM

Being 'trash' doesn't negate someone from being a good player, Scumanda was vile but she controlled the majority of the season and I regularly but reluctantly gave her credit for it.

Jason should've been out within the first two weeks, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to make the final three. I also think it's a bit futile to talk about people having an advantage from America within the context of this season since you could make a case for just about any of them having had that, unfortunately that's what the season has been based upon.

For what it's worth I think Justin's had the strongest social game.

LukeB 25-11-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9072881)
Maybe to you because you want Morgan to win and let's be honest she would, but not to me because I don't want her to? :shrug: a divided finale might be more appealing if there were a jury but since it's the viewers it's quite possible to predict who will win so no thanks. Well I'd say I stand corrected but from those few scenes of him dragging her that have been shown...is that really it? Because her trading insults back more than made up for it, I didn't think much of it to be quite honest, I thought it was a mildly amusing rivalry...they both seemed to give as much as they got.

Can you show me where I said that? I didn't recall it so had a search and the closest I could find was me saying 'I struggle to see how he has fans' which isn't exactly the same statement. Anyway, I didn't like Paulie primarily because of the way he tried to intimidate first Tiffany, then Natalie, and then Day...has Jason tried to do that (I'm genuinely curious, and ignorant to what's gone on)? Because if he hasn't and it's just some catty bitching or petty behaviour then eh...this is Big Brother US, it's kind of par for the course.

You can't hate Jason because of that lol or else you would've hated Paulie for being arrogant and Cody (****ing Cody of all people!) for being one of the whiniest houseguests of the last few seasons :laugh: you didn't like him before so you were intent on not liking him again

Anyway, I still stand by saying that you're not really best placed to be the one criticising me for liking Jason but not Paulie, when what you've criticised the former for is more than present in the latter.

Everyone knows trash bag Jason is going to win lol he had a fan base from the normal big brother (which he flopped :hehe:) so thats an advantage and a typical boring obvious winner. But i hope people give votes towards Justin because they don't want a nicole 2.0 winner which is infact Jason, returnee,bitchy and whines so much.

It was in the live feed thread it was something like i don't know how anyone can like paulie etc or something similar. Shelby was treated horribly by Jason.

I can and i will, he did it in a horrible and ungrateful way, whines and plays victim. America gave him hoh and put his target on the block and he still whines about not getting his way because he pulled alex's chip for veto. Then he says he hasn't **** talked anyone but the way he treated shelby says different. And i did kind of like him and forgot about his fat shaming and something about checking if Audrey had a willie(something like that, macie has the facts about that) but he has been acting like trash so i hated him again.

Then you don't have the right to say anything about people liking Paulie when Jason is just as bad. If not worse, I rather support Paulie than transphobic worms.


Macie Lightfoot 25-11-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9072881)
Anyway, I didn't like Paulie primarily because of the way he tried to intimidate first Tiffany, then Natalie, and then Day...has Jason tried to do that (I'm genuinely curious, and ignorant to what's gone on)? Because if he hasn't and it's just some catty bitching or petty behaviour then eh...this is Big Brother US, it's kind of par for the course.

Yes catty bitching and petty behavior is par of the course, but like... spending every minute you're awake going on these awfully personal tirades about how Shelby's a slut and a prostitute who blew every producer and editor, given out handjobs to get people to vote for her, talking about burning her house down and burning the Bungalow (yes it's just the Bungalow but Jason literally used the word arson), talking mad **** about her family and her mother, whining about how she's not an underdog but an anorexic gold digger as if those are opposites, talking about how she has herpes and how many guys have been in her vagina and how he'll wring her neck... all for no reason because Shelby didn't do anything to him? If he just talked **** about her occasionally it'd be one thing, but it was seriously nonstop and with so much vitriol it was alarming. And then once Shelby was evicted and Jason didn't have anyone to ostracize, he decided to talk **** about Justin for like six hours straight (I wish I was exaggerating) because Justin made some small comment about how he's gonna win.

And for Jason wanting to say that Shelby is the reason why people slut shame, hun you're the one giving gays a bad name.........x

Jack_ 25-11-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9072947)
Everyone knows trash bag Jason is going to win lol he had a fan base from the normal big brother (which he flopped :hehe:) so thats an advantage and a typical boring obvious winner. But i hope people give votes towards Justin because they don't want a nicole 2.0 winner which is infact Jason, returnee,bitchy and whines so much.

It was in the live feed thread it was something like i don't know how anyone can like paulie etc or something similar. Shelby was treated horribly by Jason.

I can and i will, he did it in a horrible and ungrateful way, whines and plays victim. America gave him hoh and put his target on the block and he still whines about not getting his way because he pulled alex's chip for veto. Then he says he hasn't **** talked anyone but the way he treated shelby says different. And i did kind of like him and forgot about his fat shaming and something about checking if Audrey had a willie(something like that, macie has the facts about that) but he has been acting like trash so i hated him again.

Then you don't have the right to say anything about people liking Paulie when Jason is just as bad. If not worse, I rather support Paulie than transphobic worms.

The poll I looked at put Morgan and Jason neck and neck actually, and most of the CP votes when to her side of the house so I don't think it's that clear cut to be honest. The fact he had an advantage and existing fanbase coming into the game is the precise reason why he should've been target #1 for the entire season. Again, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to last this long.

I remember you being pleased that Nicole won and you liked her in the end so I don't know why you're pretending any different now :joker: Jason is way better than her and it's not even funny. Let me rephrase the statement because I didn't mean it the way you took it. 'You don't hate Jason because of that' is what I meant.

The fact you're complaining about Jason whining and claiming that as the reason you dislike him just baffles me when Cody spent the entirety of BB16 doing the same and you worshipped him...like...again, that doesn't make any sense? I'm sure you'll say 'so why do you like Jason and not Cody' so the simple answer to save you the time is because Cody's a useless, idiotic dullard to boot and Jason's actually funny.

LOL Jason is not worse than Paulie, if you can find me a clip of him intimidating a woman in the way Paulie did with Tiff, Natalie and Day then maybe I'll agree but I'm yet to hear any evidence of this, so. The bottom line of all of this is if I'm a hypocrite then so are you, it seems pretty stupid to throw an accusation at me which can just as easily be flipped around on to you but hey :shrug:

Macie Lightfoot 25-11-2016 02:22 PM

Third party intervention: Yes, you're both hypocrites because Jason and Paulie are both ****ing awful. If not hypocrites, you both at least need to refine your tastes......xx

Jack_ 25-11-2016 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 9072978)
Yes catty bitching and petty behavior is par of the course, but like... spending every minute you're awake going on these awfully personal tirades about how Shelby's a slut and a prostitute who blew every producer and editor, given out handjobs to get people to vote for her, talking about burning her house down and burning the Bungalow (yes it's just the Bungalow but Jason literally used the word arson), talking mad **** about her family and her mother, whining about how she's not an underdog but an anorexic gold digger as if those are opposites, talking about how she has herpes and how many guys have been in her vagina and how he'll wring her neck... all for no reason because Shelby didn't do anything to him? If he just talked **** about her occasionally it'd be one thing, but it was seriously nonstop and with so much vitriol it was alarming. And then once Shelby was evicted and Jason didn't have anyone to ostracize, he decided to talk **** about Justin for like six hours straight (I wish I was exaggerating) because Justin made some small comment about how he's gonna win.

And for Jason wanting to say that Shelby is the reason why people slut shame, hun you're the one giving gays a bad name.........x

Well I don't condone any of that obviously but I've still supported people who've done a lot worse :laugh: like, someone has to actually go out of their way to try and intimidate or bully someone for me to particularly dislike them (see: Paulie, Amanda, Aaryn), as unnecessarily vitriolic as this sounds it's not really something I'm personally bothered by, regardless of who it is. But then I've not watched the feeds so perhaps he has done all of this idk

And to me, at least from the episodes perspective, it seemed that Shelby was just as insulting about Jason and didn't seem to be bothered about the whole thing? If two people can be on equal footing in a rivalry and give as good as they get I don't really have a problem with it

LukeB 25-11-2016 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9072985)
The poll I looked at put Morgan and Jason neck and neck actually, and most of the CP votes when to her side of the house so I don't think it's that clear cut to be honest. The fact he had an advantage and existing fanbase coming into the game is the precise reason why he should've been target #1 for the entire season. Again, it is testament to his social game that he's managed to last this long.

I remember you being pleased that Nicole won and you liked her in the end so I don't know why you're pretending any different now :joker: Jason is way better than her and it's not even funny. Let me rephrase the statement because I didn't mean it the way you took it. 'You don't hate Jason because of that' is what I meant.

The fact you're complaining about Jason whining and claiming that as the reason you dislike him just baffles me when Cody spent the entirety of BB16 doing the same and you worshipped him...like...again, that doesn't make any sense? I'm sure you'll say 'so why do you like Jason and not Cody' so the simple answer to save you the time is because Cody's a useless, idiotic dullard to boot and Jason's actually funny.

LOL Jason is not worse than Paulie, if you can find me a clip of him intimidating a woman in the way Paulie did with Tiff, Natalie and Day then maybe I'll agree but I'm yet to hear any evidence of this, so. The bottom line of all of this is if I'm a hypocrite then so are you, it seems pretty stupid to throw an accusation at me which can just as easily be flipped around on to you but hey :shrug:

Polls are not accurate, some polls had Kryssie being the america's nom after Scott's eviction but it was Alex and Morgan. Whitney was in the lead for CO-HOH on polls but it went to Jason. Kryssie got CP to give Jason safety, got given Co-ho which is more safety, then his team won hoh but he was never AN like Morgan was, the only one who has a chance against Jason is Justin who deserves it more. Justin playing both sides,getting whitney to flip and having the best social game is something I would award.

I didn't like Nicole on BB18 but I wanted anyone to win but James really. But Nicole was better than Jason and is still a better winner than Jason.

Jason whined the most and it's more exhausting, I'm okay with whining with some extant but there's a limit and Jason went over that. he just sat there with a face like a slapped arse bitching about how Shelby is popular,how he never gets what he wants, more stuff about shelby and loads more.

You can look on reddit/Macie's post of loads of examples of Jason's behaviour. Jason only gets away with it because of obvious reasons.I'm not calling anyone a hypocrite just don't know how Jason doesn't get slack for his behavior (only by few, who don't give LGBT,blacks special treatment)

starry 25-11-2016 05:28 PM

Jason has controlled nothing by his game (can't compare that to Amanda), he just got by on the fact that he had support on the outside and that helped him in the game by twists or by HGs frightened of his support.

JerseyWins 25-11-2016 06:25 PM

Jason literally played the same game as last time from what I've seen (smoke & whine on the backyard couch... but with even more **** talking this time). He just had America and a bunch of twists on his side this time around. Plus to add to that (as said), people are obviously going to be reluctant to target him after they saw what happened to Monte when he tried. :joker:

Oh and this last episode was one of the worst episodes of BB I've ever seen. I gave up on feeds a while ago but the episodes have still been alright IMO until this one. NOTHING happened.

With this finish to the season, it's safe to say (for me at least), BB18 > BBOTT at this point

Justin or Morgan winning could sort of redeem it but even then this is just a season I don't care about.

DrunkerThanMoses 26-11-2016 07:49 AM

Can Morgan please win to piss jason off. It's the only way to make this season worthwhile. Its sickening that America will vote for a repulsive twat like jason. But hey they voted trump as president so they clearly have bad taste

LukeB 26-11-2016 10:25 PM

I didn't realise there will be a battle to be in the final instead of veto. Do or Die
Competitor.

Spoiler:

NOTHING

Raph 27-11-2016 10:18 AM

#TeamMorgan

Raph 30-11-2016 10:05 AM

Morgan makes the final 3 YESS!! Morgan and Jason would be the best final 2. Been rooting for these two ever since Alex and Whitney left!

Raph 30-11-2016 10:06 AM

I'm glad Justin's lack of gameplay and lack of game knowledge didn't allow him to just slide into the final. Good riddance :D

DrunkerThanMoses 30-11-2016 11:18 AM

Hope Morgan wins now. Kryssie is a delusion cow and Jason is just a vile twat

Jack_ 02-12-2016 12:13 AM

Julie Chen hosting a BBUS live show on December 1st, what a novelty

MB. 02-12-2016 12:17 AM

Can't wait to see whether Jason or Jason wins

Jack_ 02-12-2016 12:32 AM

SCREAMING I hoped Julie would swear for the fun of it and she did omg

Jack_ 02-12-2016 12:38 AM

Morgan's gonna win :( it'll be like Brexit, Nicole and Trump all over again

LukeB 02-12-2016 12:45 AM

Morgan = The angel and the hilary clinton
Jason = the evil and donald trump


Macie Lightfoot 02-12-2016 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyTheElf (Post 9081386)
Morgan's gonna win :( it'll be like Brexit, Nicole and Trump all over again

yes it will be when Jason wins :(

Macie Lightfoot 02-12-2016 12:56 AM

LMFAO MORGANZA :love: xxx

Jack_ 02-12-2016 12:56 AM

Told y'all :idc:

Jack_ 02-12-2016 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeBrrr. (Post 9081393)
Morgan = The angel and the hilary clinton
Jason = the evil and donald trump

Yeah, er, no

LukeB 02-12-2016 12:57 AM

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS Morgan slayed the bastard :worship:


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