The EU don't dictate to us how many or if we should take refugees, so it has nothing to do with being in europe or not

Bollocks theses are Illegals
that broke into our nation
Then take a home

That British Fella can not Have


Out of The EU
they get sent back

I blame labour and their open door immigration policy for all of this mess that they left us to clean up.:nono:

Cameron say's we're safer, so maybe he could explain what the massive rise in cctv is for, or the massive rise in School shootings and stabbing's, or the massive rise in fatal gang culture, or rise in terrorist attacks.

And about prices, you hear stories from older people who used to have a night out on a £1 and still have money left for fish and chips on the way home, you now need £100-£200 for a night out. And to go and watch your local football team for 90 minutes a week, it costs a days and to some people 2 days wages. The cost of Christmas is ridiculous and through the roof.

So don't give us no bull Dave, just tell us the real reason you want in, I don't think him telling the truth would do him any favours.

Camerons government have made massive cuts to police departments, fire departments and UK border agencies whilst extending the powers of G4S.

Who is claiming Britain has a massive rise in terrorism and school shootings?

The facts are claiming it.

But they aren't. When was the last bomb let off in the UK by terrorists and when was the last gun killing spree in a British school?

If you compare bombings in the UK between 1972 and 89 and bombings from 89 to date, we have only had one major incident which was the 7/7 bombing.

How do you know? If we destabilise anywhere in the future we may again be called on to shoulder our share of any peoples displaced.
In or out of the EU.

The facts are really that we are safer than we've ever been in this country. I thought it was the Remain camp who were 'Project Fear' but here we are being told that the EU is to blame for mass crime waves, gang culture, school shootings and more expensive nights out and football matches!

Know who wants brexit? those who want to usher in the new world order quicker... I know this because I watch Thomas the tank.

I agree - What a wonderful testament to the skill and profficiency of our Intelligence Services in keeping one step ahead of these murdering scum and keeping us safe.

Or are you somehow suggesting that ISIS and the like have a 'soft spot' for we Brits and are deliberately not targeting us?

You are only confirming what the rest of us have long suspected; that the source for most of your opinions is Thomas The Tank Engine.

Thank You for being so honest.

:shrug: Arista CLEARLY stated "Illegals" - which are still illegal in or out of the EU, so your post is redundant.

Is this you being funny? Let me explain...

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/art...g--byxTDAtC4gZ

Why are these new 'friends' not European?

Exactly.

Again not borne out with facts and while spouting out this sensationalism, there are still no answers again from them at all as to the real questions that need answering too from the out camp.

What I said is not bollocks. Illegal immigrants will still be exactly the same problem in or out of europe too. Do you think they will say ... the UK is no longer in the EU so we won't go there now? Really?

There is plenty of genuine information available, what you are saying is bollocks :laugh:

Seriously Kizzy - and at the risk of incurring another warning or infraction for saying so - I really do not have a clue what point you are making and what you mean by; "Why are these new 'friends' not European?".

Perhaps you will explain so I can respond accordingly?

Any serious look back through this thread will prove that the ONLY facts and CORROBORATED opinions hail from those of us who want OUT.

The 'IN' brigade have offered NOTHING but unqualified, wildly misinformed OPINION which is NOT borne out by the FACTS.

It's quite clear, the new 'friends' Thomas has are not European. As in I say we may soon be aligning more closely with BRIC countries, this choice foreshadows that prospect

Oh, I understand where you are coming from now. Thank you.

Kirk, can you please stop attacking/belittling other posters for not holding the same opinion as you. How difficult is it to just argue the topic of the thread without bringing other posters into it?

ETA : This applies everyone, not just Kirk

How are we safer than we've ever been?

If we we're safer than we've ever been, then why is the terror threat to this Country currently severe?

Why is it at severe?

I'd say, the free movement of the EU, and inability to control our own borders is why.

feck me the CBI Bitch
Project Fear.

she Stutters talking bollocks
Not impartial - she is Criminal

ref: BBC NEWSHD mins ago

Leaving just isn't the right thing to do especially with this government, it's reactionary and it's going to benefit the Tories more than anyone else.

I've not seen a single argument that's convinced me that it's a good idea to leave. I'll be voting to stay come the referendum.

We still waiting for them.
BBC not good.


Ch4HD needs a 2 hour Live Debate