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Beso 27-08-2021 09:16 AM

And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!

Unbelievable.

arista 27-08-2021 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088025)
And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!

Unbelievable.


The worse about Biden
he left Helicopters, planes, Armed trucks
and so many weapons they can sell to China
or Pakistan
to get Hard Cash

arista 27-08-2021 09:24 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...0038427277.jpg

Oliver_W 27-08-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11088022)
Nah, it was never about the specifics of the religion, that's a red herring, all of the "holy books" are full of brutal bull****. The region would still have had the same issues, they'd just have issues with radical Christian extremists instead of Islamic ones. Same ghosts in the sky at the end of the day. The issue has always been how they're used to indoctrinate and control, and it doesn't really matter which book they use to do that. The people actually doing the indoctrinating don't believe a word of it anyway.

Then why is it an almost exclusively islamic issue now?

Cherie 27-08-2021 09:33 AM

This has been a debacle of momentous proportions, those people who helped that are being left behind, just no words

arista 27-08-2021 09:38 AM

Everyone on TV & Radio is saying how will
Biden get revenge

By Air Bombs

Like they do all over the World

user104658 27-08-2021 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11088029)
Then why is it an almost exclusively islamic issue now?

Because it's an almost exclusively regional issue and that region's population is Muslim. The issues are perpetual war, violence and poverty and political ideologies - but it's hard to weaponise people (in general) without throwing a little dogma into the mix. We're seeing all sorts of cookie-cutter extremist values and rhetoric springing up these days and most of the dogma fuelling it isn't even "mystical" in nature, but nonetheless the mechanisms are all too familiar and exactly the same as in religious extremism.

Essentially... the population was religious and the religion happened to be Islam, and if people already have a head full of ideas that require a bucket and a half of cognitive dissonance and a distinct lack of critical thinking, you can use those ideas as footholds for other dogma, and tailor that dogma in ways that benefit [insert power/political goal here].

Heck... western political entities are soft-weaponising all sorts of nonsensical non-religious-dogma these days for disingenuous political reasons.

bots 27-08-2021 10:00 AM

Afghanistan is tribal. That over rides any religious affiliation. Throughout the ages the various tribes have fought and they always will. That is the countries basic problem. The taliban can't control the country because there will always be another tribe that comes along to fight back. America and Russia have tried, and even with all the tech, they can't stop another tribe appearing. The taliban itself is made up of various tribes that will all revert to type as soon as the big invader is gone. The religion aspect is merely a method for one tribe to subjugate another

arista 27-08-2021 10:07 AM


Oliver_W 27-08-2021 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11088036)
Because it's an almost exclusively regional issue and that region's population is Muslim.

So if they were Christian when the Renaissance happened, do you think they'd be okay now?

Beso 27-08-2021 10:33 AM

Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?

Oliver_W 27-08-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088043)
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?

With the amount of homeless vets being left on the streets, and migrants being put up by the government, I'd say it's a given.

arista 27-08-2021 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088043)
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in Afghanistan, as they are being led into a hotel?


Yes could happen

user104658 27-08-2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088043)
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11088051)
With the amount of homeless vets being left on the streets, and migrants being put up by the government, I'd say it's a given.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11088056)
Yes could happen

It's a moot and disingenuous point - army veterans aren't homeless "because there aren't houses for them" they are homeless because they have PTSD, associated mental health problems, and often addictions due to attempts at self-medicating that trauma.

That's not at all to say that ex-soldiers aren't horribly failed, but it's a failure of ongoing practical and mental health support for departing soldiers specifically, not because "refugees took all the houses".

Oliver_W 27-08-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11088059)
It's a moot and disingenuous point - army veterans aren't homeless "because there aren't houses for them" they are homeless because they have PTSD, associated mental health problems, and often addictions due to attempts at self-medicating that trauma.

That's not at all to say that ex-soldiers aren't horribly failed, but it's a failure of ongoing practical and mental health support for departing soldiers specifically, not because "refugees took all the houses".

Oh I wasn't proportioning any blame, I was simply saying it's a likely scenario due to the way things are - who or what ever is at fault.

Beso 27-08-2021 11:44 AM

You could say they are homeless because they have been left behind.

arista 27-08-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088070)
You could say they are homeless because they have been left behind.


Yes Many are on the Streets.



But these Afghans
are getting Flats soon.


It will be on Live TV & Radio Debates the next few weeks

arista 27-08-2021 12:01 PM

The Turkish President will meet the Taliban
soon

Some Reports saying let the Turkish run the Airport
after the 31st
As flights from Pakistan & China & Turkey
are ready to Trade.

Nicky91 27-08-2021 12:19 PM

dutch government had to say no to more than 200 people who were heading to Kabul airport for a evacuation flight

arista 27-08-2021 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11088083)
Dutch government had to say no to more than 200 people who were heading to Kabul airport for an evacuation flight


Yes last chance

Ninastar 27-08-2021 01:07 PM

Homeless vets and refugees both need our support because they both were affected by choices we made. They both need cared for. I don’t think you can compare it really

The only thing that I get concerned about is terrorists pretending to be refugees just to infiltrate different places and be the cause of future attacks

Tom4784 27-08-2021 01:18 PM

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Nicky91 27-08-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11088093)
Yes last chance

no, the last flight had landed today over here, 87 dutch people onboard


possibly now a few diplomats and military personnel who have helped with evacuation to bring them home (118 people who want to evacuate had yesterday made it to airport just in time so some of those remaining can get a ride alongside those diplomats and military)


but we stopped with evacuations yesterday, so those 200 people are too late

jet 27-08-2021 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11088025)
And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!

Unbelievable.

Not any more.


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