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Ammi 12-02-2024 11:15 AM

…and Gav’s liking it ….?

Niamh. 12-02-2024 11:18 AM

Yeah he does, I'm actually glad I did rewatch it because I noticed a few details I'd missed the first time

Ammi 12-02-2024 11:23 AM

…I do feel that it’s a storyline that will benefit from a second watch …my thoughts didn’t really start fully connecting until the end and reflecting back…but then obviously you’ve forgotten bits/ details as well….

Niamh. 12-02-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11414848)
…I do feel that it’s a storyline that will benefit from a second watch …my thoughts didn’t really start fully connecting until the end and reflecting back…but then obviously you’ve forgotten bits/ details as well….

I get more what you said about it being like memento too now after that second watch

Spoiler:

I only noticed the 2nd time i watched that not just the murders are jumping in time but also other events like Dan waking up on the train with his hand cut and then showing it happening afterwards instead of before. I also missed that Kirby still has that horse statue on her locker as an adult

Ammi 12-02-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11414851)
I get more what you said about it being like memento too now after that second watch

Spoiler:

I only noticed the 2nd time i watched that not just the murders are jumping in time but also other events like Dan waking up on the train with his hand cut and then showing it happening afterwards instead of before. I also missed that Kirby still has that horse statue on her locker as an adult

… I won’t say anything until you’ve finished because I can’t recall which episode each held which bit and I don’t want to accidentally give any spoilers ….but I absolutely understand why it was said that it’s best to go into it not knowing very much about it because …it has got a feel of Memento but it’s also quite unique in itself as well ….

Niamh. 13-02-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11414881)
… I won’t say anything until you’ve finished because I can’t recall which episode each held which bit and I don’t want to accidentally give any spoilers ….but I absolutely understand why it was said that it’s best to go into it not knowing very much about it because …it has got a feel of Memento but it’s also quite unique in itself as well ….

We finished it last night

Spoiler:

I really enjoyed it over all. Seems like Harper was a time travelling incel then, the connection that these women had was that they all rejected him and made him feel small and inferior. Kirby when he tried to chat her up with the ear rings trick, Julia when she refused the coffee and told him not to touch her in the nursing home, Jinny when he tried to show his star knowledge after the Planetarium show and she corrected him and of course Klara the original love interest. An interesting take on an insecure little man

Ammi 13-02-2024 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11414996)
We finished it last night

Spoiler:

I really enjoyed it over all. Seems like Harper was a time travelling incel then, the connection that these women had was that they all rejected him and made him feel small and inferior. Kirby when he tried to chat her up with the ear rings trick, Julia when she refused the coffee and told him not to touch her in the nursing home, Jinny when he tried to show his star knowledge after the Planetarium show and she corrected him and of course Klara the original love interest. An interesting take on an insecure little man

…(…I felt as though…)…there were shades of Memento, as we said…but also shades of the Butterfly Effect…

Spoiler:

…he was definitely misogynistic but inherently evil as well…maybe the house ‘summoned him’ because it could feel that evil even before his first encounter with it…the other common thing with his victims was that they were ‘shining women’…women who showed and had potential to excel …and that’s what we saw from the beginning on the doorstep…when he said to Kirby that it was about finding the shine and then removing it…as in taking their life away from them just as they were reaching a place of importance in their lives…and he had no interest in any girl that didn’t ‘shine’ which is why he didn’t kill the young girl who asked him to get the alcohol for her…she want any ‘challenge’…she wasn’t someone he could observe and find interest in her life and spend his time going back to different parts of her life etc…?…he found her very unremarkable and his victims couldn’t be that…he had to stalk them and taunt them and see how he was causing confusion/…chaos if you like…I thought that Kirby’s changing appearances with her hair/styles were interesting as well in showing time jolts…I’m going to read the book, I think…because it’s apparently completely different in the ending…I guess that’s because in the series, there is room to have another series…I mean, that was left possible, want it…I don’t know if that’s the reason for the different ending, though…but I read for instance that in the book, the house somehow directed Harper to his next victim and that he literally could see a visible ‘shining glow’ around the girl…hence the story title…

Niamh. 13-02-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415030)
…(…I felt as though…)…there were shades of Memento, as we said…but also shades of the Butterfly Effect…

Spoiler:

…he was definitely misogynistic but inherently evil as well…maybe the house ‘summoned him’ because it could feel that evil even before his first encounter with it…the other common thing with his victims was that they were ‘shining women’…women who showed and had potential to excel …and that’s what we saw from the beginning on the doorstep…when he said to Kirby that it was about finding the shine and then removing it…as in taking their life away from them just as they were reaching a place of importance in their lives…and he had no interest in any girl that didn’t ‘shine’ which is why he didn’t kill the young girl who asked him to get the alcohol for her…she want any ‘challenge’…she wasn’t someone he could observe and find interest in her life and spend his time going back to different parts of her life etc…?…he found her very unremarkable and his victims couldn’t be that…he had to stalk them and taunt them and see how he was causing confusion/…chaos if you like…I thought that Kirby’s changing appearances with her hair/styles were interesting as well in showing time jolts…I’m going to read the book, I think…because it’s apparently completely different in the ending…I guess that’s because in the series, there is room to have another series…I mean, that was left possible, want it…I don’t know if that’s the reason for the different ending, though…but I read for instance that in the book, the house somehow directed Harper to his next victim and that he literally could see a visible ‘shining glow’ around the girl…hence the story title…

Spoiler:

Do you think the house itself wanted to be used for evil though? There wasn't any indication the man Harper got the house from was evil or using it for evil, he just seemed fed up of it, he'd probably been jumping around for a very long time, probably same as the man previous to him who was hanging from the stairs. I don't think Harper would have ever wanted to kill himself and leave the house.


Ammi 13-02-2024 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415036)
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Do you think the house itself wanted to be used for evil though? There wasn't any indication the man Harper got the house from was evil or using it for evil, he just seemed fed up of it, he'd probably been jumping around for a very long time, probably same as the man previous to him who was hanging from the stairs. I don't think Harper would have ever wanted to kill himself and leave the house.


Spoiler:

…this is a quote I read about the house…/…I’ll give you a really interesting link in a minute …this is what’s made me want to read the book because I rarely do it that way round, once I’ve seen a dramatised version…but I feel with this that there might be quite a bit lost in the telling specifically because it was intended to keep us guessing, like with Lost…but it feels as though the book explains a lot more and concludes the story with a different ending…

‘The house isn’t just a well-furnished time travel machine. It’s a malevolent entity that has existed for at least a few hundred years. It targets people who will use its power to sow pain and discord throughout time, then feeds off the resulting anguish - both from the victim’s torment and their death’…..

…and the interesting twist for the series is that the house didn’t target Kirby to do its bidding, it targeted her as a victim….and she took control, the control that Harper had on her through the house…so what power has she got now because she had no ‘evil’ in her like Harper had…would she use it to just travel to dimensions to keep people alive…to keep their living versions…



https://aiptcomics.com/2022/06/03/sh...ing-explained/

Ammi 15-02-2024 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11414571)
…I’ve started to watch Severance …it’s a completely unique and intriguing storyline so hopefully it’ll be a good watch…

…I’m struggling a bit with Severance…I will probably continue and watch the whole season because I’m just going into episode 6 so more than half way now but, hmmmm…it’s bleak and depressing…it has a vibe of Joe Versus the Volcano/the beginning scenes…and the thought of Joe staying in that working environment and never travelling to meet the volcano…?…well, I just feel that movie would have also lacked something quite important…it’s giving me all kinds of anxieties with that artificial lighting and the thought of that being their lives…and I just don’t get any point of it…and even when we do find out what the point is…/…what their work is etc and how sinister etc…?..who the heck cares, I mean…there are a million series out there and all pretty fabulous and more instantly engaging than this…of all of the TV’s in all of the world and this series walks into mine…hmmmmm, not the best….

bots 15-02-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415319)
…I’m struggling a bit with Severance…I will probably continue and watch the whole season because I’m just going into episode 6 so more than half way now but, hmmmm…it’s bleak and depressing…it has a vibe of Joe Versus the Volcano/the beginning scenes…and the thought of Joe staying in that working environment and never travelling to meet the volcano…?…well, I just feel that movie would have also lacked something quite important…it’s giving me all kinds of anxieties with that artificial lighting and the thought of that being their lives…and I just don’t get any point of it…and even when we do find out what the point is…/…what their work is etc and how sinister etc…?..who the heck cares, I mean…there are a million series out there and all pretty fabulous and more instantly engaging than this…of all of the TV’s in all of the world and this series walks into mine…hmmmmm, not the best….

i did tell you to watch slow horses :laugh:

Ammi 15-02-2024 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11415326)
i did tell you to watch slow horses :laugh:

…smug horses…:laugh:…I have my eye on Bad Sisters as an up and coming watch but I’ll slowly get around to the horses…

bots 15-02-2024 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415330)
…smug horses…:laugh:…I have my eye on Bad Sisters as an up and coming watch but I’ll slowly get around to the horses…

bad sisters is more of a "fun" watch.

If you want to go for really thought provoking, try the Crowded Room with Tom Holland

Crimson Dynamo 15-02-2024 08:22 AM

Im watching Randall and Hopkirk every weekday night at 10pm on Great TV Sky 157

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gsIi8e4Xj...andall%2B2.jpg

Ammi 15-02-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11415332)
bad sisters is more of a "fun" watch.

If you want to go for really thought provoking, try the Crowded Room with Tom Holland

…I’ll check that one out for sure, thank you for the recommendation…:love:…

Niamh. 15-02-2024 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415043)
Spoiler:

…this is a quote I read about the house…/…I’ll give you a really interesting link in a minute …this is what’s made me want to read the book because I rarely do it that way round, once I’ve seen a dramatised version…but I feel with this that there might be quite a bit lost in the telling specifically because it was intended to keep us guessing, like with Lost…but it feels as though the book explains a lot more and concludes the story with a different ending…

‘The house isn’t just a well-furnished time travel machine. It’s a malevolent entity that has existed for at least a few hundred years. It targets people who will use its power to sow pain and discord throughout time, then feeds off the resulting anguish - both from the victim’s torment and their death’…..

…and the interesting twist for the series is that the house didn’t target Kirby to do its bidding, it targeted her as a victim….and she took control, the control that Harper had on her through the house…so what power has she got now because she had no ‘evil’ in her like Harper had…would she use it to just travel to dimensions to keep people alive…to keep their living versions…



https://aiptcomics.com/2022/06/03/sh...ing-explained/

Thanks for that Ammi, do you think there will be a second season? Not sure I want one as much I liked the first :think:

Have you been watching True Detective?

Ammi 15-02-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415359)
Thanks for that Ammi, do you think there will be a second season? Not sure I want one as much I liked the first :think:

Have you been watching True Detective?

Spoiler:

….I’m not sure because I don’t think that a second season is necessary…the only storyline really it could take would be…[YT]…how does the evil of the house impact and possibly change Kirby’s character…but she magnificently took the power/control back from both the House and Harper so I think for me, that’s the perfect ending….i guess we saw also that, that control means she effectively can avoid the killings…I do though want to read the book because I loved it but I do feel a bit cheated by the changes…how the part the house played was very much a key part of the book but we didn’t realise that…we didn’t see the house ‘choose’ the victims and actually show them shining with their auras…and the ending itself is apparently completely different, so I will read it…but yeah, I agree with you that Harper was effectively an ‘incel’ who the house chose to kill for it…because he was an easy person to choose, I guess…he already had that inbuilt misogyny….

Ammi 15-02-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415359)
Thanks for that Ammi, do you think there will be a second season? Not sure I want one as much I liked the first :think:

Have you been watching True Detective?

…oh is it ended now…?…I don’t have that streaming site so I was going to let it run to the end and then take out a free subscription for a week and binge it…I’m such a get it for free tart atm…:laugh:…

Niamh. 15-02-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415368)
Spoiler:

….I’m not sure because I don’t think that a second season is necessary…the only storyline really it could take would be…[YT]…how does the evil of the house impact and possibly change Kirby’s character…but she magnificently took the power/control back from both the House and Harper so I think for me, that’s the perfect ending….i guess we saw also that, that control means she effectively can avoid the killings…I do though want to read the book because I loved it but I do feel a bit cheated by the changes…how the part the house played was very much a key part of the book but we didn’t realise that…we didn’t see the house ‘choose’ the victims and actually show them shining with their auras…and the ending itself is apparently completely different, so I will read it…but yeah, I agree with you that Harper was effectively an ‘incel’ who the house chose to kill for it…because he was an easy person to choose, I guess…he already had that inbuilt misogyny….

Spoiler:

Yeah, and to me just watching the show they kind of implied that he chose them both because of their "shine" and because they all rejected his advances so he punished them just like he punished his original "love" Klara.

I did read as well that by not killing Harper at the end she was doing an evil thing because he still may end being a serial killer, just in his own timeline. That Kirby chose to punish him by letting him experience what she had, the life changing constantly

Niamh. 15-02-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415371)
…oh is it ended now…?…I don’t have that streaming site so I was going to let it run to the end and then take out a free subscription for a week and binge it…I’m such a get it for free tart atm…:laugh:…

Not yet, i think there's one episode left

Ammi 15-02-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415372)
Spoiler:

Yeah, and to me just watching the show they kind of implied that he chose them both because of their "shine" and because they all rejected his advances so he punished them just like he punished his original "love" Klara.

I did read as well that by not killing Harper at the end she was doing an evil thing because he still may end being a serial killer, just in his own timeline. That Kirby chose to punish him by letting him experience what she had, the life changing constantly

Spoiler:

…and also in not killing Jim, she could make him ‘relive’ that control that she had over him, whenever she chose…because that’s what he did to her and some of the others…Probably all of the other victims, it’s just that the storyline could only focus on a few…what wasn’t instructed by the house or didn’t appear to be is how much Harper enjoyed tormenting and torturing them by constantly appearing in every version of them and throwing them into confusion …always letting them know that he had the control to end their lives at any time…Kirby has turned all of that back in him, there can’t really be a more joyful ending than that…

Ammi 15-02-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415373)
Not yet, i think there's one episode left

…when it’s finished I’m looking forward to binging it…although I think Mr Ammi is probably concerned that I’m in training to be a serial killer or something…

Niamh. 15-02-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415380)
Spoiler:

…and also in not killing Jim, she could make him ‘relive’ that control that she had over him, whenever she chose…because that’s what he did to her and some of the others…Probably all of the other victims, it’s just that the storyline could only focus on a few…what wasn’t instructed by the house or didn’t appear to be is how much Harper enjoyed tormenting and torturing them by constantly appearing in every version of them and throwing them into confusion …always letting them know that he had the control to end their lives at any time…Kirby has turned all of that back in him, there can’t really be a more joyful ending than that…

Spoiler:

haha yeah joyful for her but will the house now corrupt her into becoming an evil person who can only get joy from torturing people :think:


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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11415381)
…when it’s finished I’m looking forward to binging it…although I think Mr Ammi is probably concerned that I’m in training to be a serial killer or something…

:laugh:

Tbh as much as I like this show, it's not one I would have liked to binge too heavily, it is quite a bleak and dark series, and 1 or 2 episodes in a row is enough for me

Ammi 15-02-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11415383)
Spoiler:

haha yeah joyful for her but will the house now corrupt her into becoming an evil person who can only get joy from torturing people :think:




:laugh:

Tbh as much as I like this show, it's not one I would have liked to binge to heavily, it is quite a bleak and dark series, and 1 or 2 episodes in a row is enough for me

…I think this is what I’m finding atm with Severance as well…/…the concept of the storyline is good and interesting but what it gives is quite bleak and grey….and some stories/series are just not meant for binging…it’s too much so takes away and contras some of their intentions, you know…we need to create our own balance in watching and binging doesn’t allow for that…


…actually I’ve just randomly thought of a series you might like if you haven’t seen it…Class of ‘07…

Ammi 15-02-2024 10:21 AM

…trailer, I really liked it but haven’t really met anyone else who watched it…:laugh:…




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