They have I agree Ammi, all that 'poverty porn' a few years ago they were relentless on every channel. With strange cut aways to trainers, big tvs and such they were specifically designed to instil division.

But how do people with very little afford such things? They are like anyone targetted by advertising in the form of 'affordable loans', remember wonga? They were the trailblazers of unsecured personal loans, charging up to 4000% interest! Loan sharks don't charge that much! then came Brighthouse for all that must have tech with similar charges. Now there's quickquid and petfect home who operate in the same principle but have to be more open as to the real cost if 'low cost' loans.

it's worked a treat! Just look at how they are being framed now, once again the demonisation has begun. Saddled with years worth of debt on top of changes brought in with universal credit and the 2 child limit on working tax credit the only option for many is the food bank. ... and what's being blamed as the cause? Budgeting! It is budgeting all these debts that created the problem in the first place, and the solution? ... more payday loans, more debt in an endless cycle.

This is the poverty trap, how do you get out of poverty? Get a secure job that pays a living wage, not a zero hr agency job and have affordable childcare available. The politics of division have to end.

i think we all need to wake up to the fact that the world isn't the same as it was even a mere 3 or 4 years ago. The reason politicians are voicing the things they do is because people do, they are reflecting the voices of people in the UK.

If Boris wins on Thursday, people will have democratically elected him. We live in a polarised world with no sensible middle ground any more. Any outcome on Friday will be a nightmare for me whether it be one party with a good majority or a hung parliament.

labour's pledge to end austerity in its first 100 days is beyond laughable

I have a feeling Labour will get in and IF they do they better deliver what they have promised and would probably do better to change their leader, but they will probably do what they always do spend,spend,spend,get us almost bankrupt again and leave it for the Tories to clean up yet again,so they (the Tories)then get blamed for trying to cut corners to get us back on track, and so it goes on.

Austerity is an ideological spending plan. Of course it can be ended quickly. I do enjoy the way you say that you hate everyone then only criticise labour. That's your right, of course, but from what you write, there's only one outcome that will be a nightmare for you.

Kaz this is false. The tories have exploded the debt, not labour. The tories haven't cleaned up anything. It's the tories that have been spend, spend, spending, just not on stuff to actually benefit the people.

And what are they reflecting? Are they reflecting the things they projected on to them in the first instance?...

Nobody wakes up one day and says ' those lazy disabled people lolling about all day'... there has been a protracted drip feeding of disinformation on many groups, lone parents, the homeless, addicts, the poor in general and many many more.
The lack of empathy for these groups is not by accident, it's by design.

Didn't the Labour party leave a note for the Tories saying something along the lines of there is no money left, I saw a pic of it somewhere I'm sure.

Even if Labour only manage to do half the things they’ve promised by the end of a term, we’ll still be in a much better place than we are now under the Tories.

Tories have skyrocketed the national debt and what have we got to show for it? Vital services cut, budgets for local councils drastically cut, school fundings cut, the top 5% have been allowed to double their wealth while millions of people have been pushed into poverty at the other end, they’ve had 10 years to make a difference and they’ve done nothing of the sort, they’ve got one thing right, Britain does deserve better.

absolute twat

Yes they did, it's the kind of note that exiting parties have left for each other going back decades. The only issue, is that labour were too trusting and maybe naive to believe the tories wouldn't carry it around politicising it for 6 years.

Would you be interested in seeing the actual debt figures going back from the last labour government to now?

Bit harsh, I only posted someones tweet. :fist:

:hehe:

I mean to think that people might feel at home in the country they work in, crazy **** ..

They’ve been happy to take their taxes while they’re here, but they’re not good enough to think of this country as their home?

Funny coming from Boris ‘born in New York’ Johnson

That was a worldwide financial crash... how could it just be labour?

Now can you see how this misinformation thing works?

One of the bankers who helped contribute to the global financial crash is a high powered Tory cabinet member and spends his time trying to lay blame at the feet of Labour.

It’s.... Savid Javid.

When they come to write the history books, and write about when it all began to turn around.

When your children or grandchildren ask you:

“What did you do to end that world of rough sleeping and food banks?

“What did you do to save the NHS and stop the Tories selling it off?”

“What did you do to bring back pride to our town?

“And to finally wrestle back control from those who had kept it to themselves for so long?”

You can tell them:

“It all began when we voted*Labour, when together we laid the foundations of that new society, foundations so deeply rooted that no Tory could ever tear them up.”

You can tell them:

“It was when we proved, once and for all, that the doubters were wrong. That the doubters are always wrong: another world really *is* possible.”

OR... you could tell them you did nothing.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...fice-live-news

Riddle me this no dealers....

If we no deal, where will we trade and how?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9238506.html

Labour now says the NHS will NOT get a 4 day week.

They never said it would get a 4 day week, the tories made that up.

Labour has said
in November the plan for a 4 day week.


Corbyn said today the NHS will not get the 4 day week.

So what if Conservatives say it
I ain't on about them.........

Politics Live BBC2HD

My mistake, bit of a misunderstanding. Labour initially said they want everyone to work a 4 day week, then the tories twisted that to mean that the nhs would be closed on some days, that's what I was referring to.

Why are they making a meal of this 4 day week thing anyway? .. it doesn't mean the NHS would close on fridays!

Yes
that is why the debate live today
on Politics Live BBC2HD
highlighted what Corbyn the NHS no 4 day week
stated today.
But other Industries will go on a 4 day week


I do not have time for Twists

I want Facts.

Drag him sir

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...ront-09dec.jpg


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...page-9-dec.jpg

Can I get you a tampon, madam?

Under the Conservatives
VAT is to removed from Tampons

I was a firm labour voter, but this is a game changer :smug:

Funny that when Boris has voted against it whenever Labour suggested it

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELXA-OsX...jpg&name=small

Mogg in Exeter

Diversity in action

Well he would woudn't he,lol, Was there REALLY any need to put this boy on a floor ? when surely he could have been seated at least, I am very sceptical about this picture.