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Nemo123 09-08-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by merv
This appears to be anti smoking thread and really little to do with BB,but.
If you drive a car then you too are contributing to Cancer,
If you are a none driver living in a city, you smoke the equivelant poisons as having 20 cigs a day(check yourself)
So, where is the call to ban cars, or make the housemates walk to the house on first night.
It is about smoking on BB. I wouldn't mind if you explained how car fumes equate to smoking 20 cigs/day. Surely if that's so it would be impossible to say smoking causes cancer, surely the incidence of lung cancer would be equal among smokers and non-smokers??

Nemo123 09-08-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by BigBummer
People can smoke if they want.
If you are worried teach your children not to copy fools off the telly... that should help.

Not only that, some of the best BB moments have been as a result of lack of cigs. What a silly thread.
This is a silly thread?? Have you read the others?

a_2009 09-08-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by a_2009
I think smokers should be allowed in the house, it would be unfair to discriminate.

Based on the arguement that it encourages you to smoke, surely you face heaps of smokers throughout the day at work, or on a night out....and that this will trigger your cravings? So are you suggesting smoking should be banned full stop?
I quit over 4 months ago, I still get cravings, but i made a decision to never smoke again. I'm not going to criticise people who do smoke, I think it all comes down to choice. If anything watching people smoke now makes me personally feel quite lucky i'm no longer inhaling all that cr*p in to my lungs smoking 20 a day, and i've finally got over the addiction.
Smoking is banned in the workplace and pubs, but you do still have to run the gauntlet of that stench at the pub door.
So what's the difference between seeing people smoking outside work or the pub, than to seeing people smoke on BB? If you don't want to smoke, that's your choice. But you can't realistically expect everyone else to stop smoking.

guigy 09-08-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
Smoking ads have been baned since the 70's, yet these people smoke like chimneys. Even smoking in dramas is almost completely banned.

No smokers only on BB should be the rule.

You watch them nd if you'e an ex-smoker, or a non-smoker, you're encouraged to light up.

Ban them!
You Tit

This is real life

Are you a Daily Mail Reader

Nemo123 09-08-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by a_2009
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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by a_2009
I think smokers should be allowed in the house, it would be unfair to discriminate.

Based on the arguement that it encourages you to smoke, surely you face heaps of smokers throughout the day at work, or on a night out....and that this will trigger your cravings? So are you suggesting smoking should be banned full stop?
I quit over 4 months ago, I still get cravings, but i made a decision to never smoke again. I'm not going to criticise people who do smoke, I think it all comes down to choice. If anything watching people smoke now makes me personally feel quite lucky i'm no longer inhaling all that cr*p in to my lungs smoking 20 a day, and i've finally got over the addiction.
Smoking is banned in the workplace and pubs, but you do still have to run the gauntlet of that stench at the pub door.
So what's the difference between seeing people smoking outside work or the pub, than to seeing people smoke on BB? If you don't want to smoke, that's your choice. But you can't realistically expect everyone else to stop smoking.
One is peer pressure, what your fellows do. A powerful force nodoubt, but until smoking is banned altogether in public, little can be done about it. What we saw tonight was a 50 minute ad for tobacco, which is illegal. I wonder how long before the ASA wakes up to this?

Nemo123 09-08-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by guigy
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Originally posted by Nemo123
Smoking ads have been baned since the 70's, yet these people smoke like chimneys. Even smoking in dramas is almost completely banned.

No smokers only on BB should be the rule.

You watch them nd if you'e an ex-smoker, or a non-smoker, you're encouraged to light up.

Ban them!
You Tit

This is real life

Are you a Daily Mail Reader
Are there no rules about abusing other forum members on this site? It says more about you than me.

Vicky. 09-08-2009 11:54 PM

Smoking in dramas is only banned if they film it in a studio...because it is against the law to smoke in a workplace.

The BB house can hardly be classed as a worplace, plus they smoke in open air...

shash 09-08-2009 11:56 PM

do you realise how many civil liberties we have lost and are losing in this country, it is quite worry, and we should not volunteer to lose more of the choices we have remaining. Sure, smoking is bad, but so is drinking and quite possibly mobile phone use. For me it is about freedom of choice in a democratic and free society. There are too many things about which people are saying "Ban it!" and this is really not a healthy situation - and I do get the irony about using the word 'healthy' in the context of smoking :wink: but adults should be able to make decisions like this for themselves once aware of the dangers.

guigy 10-08-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by shash
do you realise how many civil liberties we have lost and are losing in this country, it is quite worry, and we should not volunteer to lose more of the choices we have remaining. Sure, smoking is bad, but so is drinking and quite possibly mobile phone use. For me it is about freedom of choice in a democratic and free society. There are too many things about which people are saying "Ban it!" and this is really not a healthy situation - and I do get the irony about using the word 'healthy' in the context of smoking :wink: but adults should be able to make decisions like this for themselves once aware of the dangers.
You are so right

Too many People out there wanting to run others lives for them
:dance2:

Nemo123 10-08-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by VickyJ
Smoking in dramas is only banned if they film it in a studio...because it is against the law to smoke in a workplace.

The BB house can hardly be classed as a worplace, plus they smoke in open air...
Interesting. Newdramas feature smoking less and less. Is there a smoker left in Corrie? I noticed Nasty Nick smoke outside the Queen Vic, but even Dot scarcely seems to smoke any more. I think it is disappearing by degrees.

RCW1945 10-08-2009 12:05 AM

You will need to plan further ahead.
All people attending auditions will, of course, claim to be non-smokers.
So you need to prepare punishments when they arrive in the house with their cigarettes. Will you remove them from their cases? Will you frisk them?
Say you get half of the initial HMs who are smokers, will you evict them all? Will they all ask to leave?
It's possible, but you will have to do more pre-planning.

guigy 10-08-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by VickyJ
Smoking in dramas is only banned if they film it in a studio...because it is against the law to smoke in a workplace.

The BB house can hardly be classed as a worplace, plus they smoke in open air...
Interesting. Newdramas feature smoking less and less. Is there a smoker left in Corrie? I noticed Nasty Nick smoke outside the Queen Vic, but even Dot scarcely seems to smoke any more. I think it is disappearing by degrees.
Yes theres at least 3 in Corrie

Vicky. 10-08-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by VickyJ
Smoking in dramas is only banned if they film it in a studio...because it is against the law to smoke in a workplace.

The BB house can hardly be classed as a worplace, plus they smoke in open air...
Interesting. Newdramas feature smoking less and less. Is there a smoker left in Corrie? I noticed Nasty Nick smoke outside the Queen Vic, but even Dot scarcely seems to smoke any more. I think it is disappearing by degrees.
It is frowned upon for people to smoke on dramas, so i think this is part of the reason...but yea, its classed as illegal if they smoke on set

Maybe they have to get some kind of permit if a character is going to have a tab...:shrug:

Nemo123 10-08-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by shash
do you realise how many civil liberties we have lost and are losing in this country, it is quite worry, and we should not volunteer to lose more of the choices we have remaining. Sure, smoking is bad, but so is drinking and quite possibly mobile phone use. For me it is about freedom of choice in a democratic and free society. There are too many things about which people are saying "Ban it!" and this is really not a healthy situation - and I do get the irony about using the word 'healthy' in the context of smoking :wink: but adults should be able to make decisions like this for themselves once aware of the dangers.
Indeed, point taken. But tobacco advertising is already banned, and watching people smoke or argue over smoking for about 50 minutes of a HL show constitutes advertising, and surely it's just a matter of time before the ASA call them up on it.

a_2009 10-08-2009 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by a_2009
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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by a_2009
I think smokers should be allowed in the house, it would be unfair to discriminate.

Based on the arguement that it encourages you to smoke, surely you face heaps of smokers throughout the day at work, or on a night out....and that this will trigger your cravings? So are you suggesting smoking should be banned full stop?
I quit over 4 months ago, I still get cravings, but i made a decision to never smoke again. I'm not going to criticise people who do smoke, I think it all comes down to choice. If anything watching people smoke now makes me personally feel quite lucky i'm no longer inhaling all that cr*p in to my lungs smoking 20 a day, and i've finally got over the addiction.
Smoking is banned in the workplace and pubs, but you do still have to run the gauntlet of that stench at the pub door.
So what's the difference between seeing people smoking outside work or the pub, than to seeing people smoke on BB? If you don't want to smoke, that's your choice. But you can't realistically expect everyone else to stop smoking.
One is peer pressure, what your fellows do. A powerful force nodoubt, but until smoking is banned altogether in public, little can be done about it. What we saw tonight was a 50 minute ad for tobacco, which is illegal. I wonder how long before the ASA wakes up to this?
Peer pressure? I guess it depends on how old a person is and the individual's will power. There comes a point where people have to take responsibility for their choices instead of blaming it on others. There's more non-smokers than there are smokers in this country, if anything smokers have become social outcasts, having to huddle in a small corner as there is nowhere else for them to smoke.

An alternative opinion is that for 50 minutes it showed the housemates interacting and during that time they were coincidently having a smoke when the 'entertaining' events occurred.

Nemo123 10-08-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by VickyJ
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Originally posted by Nemo123
Quote:

Originally posted by VickyJ
Smoking in dramas is only banned if they film it in a studio...because it is against the law to smoke in a workplace.

The BB house can hardly be classed as a worplace, plus they smoke in open air...
Interesting. Newdramas feature smoking less and less. Is there a smoker left in Corrie? I noticed Nasty Nick smoke outside the Queen Vic, but even Dot scarcely seems to smoke any more. I think it is disappearing by degrees.
It is frowned upon for people to smoke on dramas, so i think this is part of the reason...but yea, its classed as illegal if they smoke on set

I saw Nick smoke in an episode of EE at the door of the Vic. Proof positive that smokers are bad people. But you don't see Dot light up, standing at the door of the Vic is not Dot's thing.

Maybe they have to get some kind of permit if a character is going to have a tab...:shrug:

Annmarie 10-08-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by andynsteve
omg how silly, if thats the case ban eastenders, corrie etc also, when the cast smoke....jeesshhhh

lets ban asian , gay, lesbian, and people of colour also.....

so silly pmsl
well said. Reality tv means reality

Annmarie 10-08-2009 12:15 AM

There are way more non smokers in the house than there is smokers. Get a bloody life will you.

shash 10-08-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by shash
do you realise how many civil liberties we have lost and are losing in this country, it is quite worry, and we should not volunteer to lose more of the choices we have remaining. Sure, smoking is bad, but so is drinking and quite possibly mobile phone use. For me it is about freedom of choice in a democratic and free society. There are too many things about which people are saying "Ban it!" and this is really not a healthy situation - and I do get the irony about using the word 'healthy' in the context of smoking :wink: but adults should be able to make decisions like this for themselves once aware of the dangers.
Indeed, point taken. But tobacco advertising is already banned, and watching people smoke or argue over smoking for about 50 minutes of a HL show constitutes advertising, and surely it's just a matter of time before the ASA call them up on it.
I think it's interesting the way BB deal with the issue of smoking. I believe they like having smokers in there because there is friction when supplies are low and instant house divides between the smokers and non-smokers. But the way they have insisted that they can only smoke in ashtrays or bus shelters is almost degrading. This in no way glamourises smoking or is a good advert. I have been a smoker and am giving up again after a short-term "blip", and personally have actually found this series helpful because none of the smokers look remotely cool or happy, and scrapping around for dog ends in a wet bus shelter makes me glad I am not smoking. Just my take on it, I can't see too many new recruits to smoking because of this year's BB :wink:

Nemo123 10-08-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Annmarie
There are way more non smokers in the house than there is smokers. Get a bloody life will you.
Bet you've got a delightful Lisa wheese. Just as well I can't hear you or smell you.

ElProximo 10-08-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by shash
I'm glad you aren't in government :wink:
Strongly agree that the idea of this programme is to record real people 'as they are'.
Far worse than smoking is ongoing cheating, superficial obsessions, treating people with disgrace and contempt, women using sexuality for cheap gains, men who bully people with their muscles, backstabbing and especially gossip. Gossip and intrigue.
These things are horrific habits, terrible lessons and when they work to win a prize they are a temptation for any viewers prone to such things.
Cigarettes are the least of the problems here.

Having said that, if you wanted to look at it this way - BB bans them to an outdoor bus shelter or a giant ashtray and especially depressing and unattractive is to see smokers who will leave a warm room of fun and then be seen puffing away in a corner on a dark rainy night.. ..or worse digging around for soggy dog-ends to try and relight.. ..UGH!
IF that doesn't scare anyone away?
Anyone thinking of starting the habit might just watch a clip of Lisa and Karly digging around in wet dirt for soggy bits of tobacco.

Annmarie 10-08-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo123
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Originally posted by Annmarie
There are way more non smokers in the house than there is smokers. Get a bloody life will you.
Bet you've got a delightful Lisa wheese. Just as well I can't hear you or smell you.
For your information I don't smoke and never have


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