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Originally Posted by MassiveTruck
(Post 2556918)
My view on them is, I don't need to take them. I can't imagine why somebody would. I would think they've got nothing better to do.
I mean, it's about feeling a different feeling right? Why not explore life, explore the world, explore people... why do you need a substance, be it legal or illegal to feel something? Why not do what people do to feel more from life and that is to explore the world and try new things - that's a natural high.
I think that's why people on this thread are saying it's sad, unfulfilling and for losers.
I think it's a sad state of the society we live in that people really see this as an option, a viable option to do something with themselves. I can't believe there are pockets of society where people encourage it and if they don't like the personality of some people they said you should take them. It speaks for itself.
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Don't you think your seeing things, and correct me if I am sounding too rational here, ridiculously black and white?
You keep using the word NEED and keep insinuating people take drugs or drink as a substitute for any actual brain development. That's preposterous. Plenty of people explore the world and enrich themselves in culture, and still have a few bottles at the weekend or a few smokes to feel good. Who care? Good for them.
Plus, IMO, you absolutely cannot explore the depths of your own mind without psychedelics. That's not condoning them either. I cant stand the things. They would more than likely spin me out badly, but they WILL show you things in your brain in ways you never knew existed. People have smoked DMT, a naturally occurring chemical in the brain, scientists have no idea why, and have literally lived the entire life of another person or have felt themselves come into contact with extraterrestrial life force in the space of ten minuets. I think it is a very healthy thing to have something, at least once, to compare your default, sober ego and state of mind to, otherwise you will never know what that actually feels like and will take it for granted. You will have nothing to compare your consciousness to and will view it as 'normal' when in fact it is simply one of many states of mind. Look at all the positive, reverential, life changing, spiritual psychedelic experiences out there. You cant just deny all of that. You simply cant. There's no way logic allows for it. And theirs no way you can FULLY explore the insane depths of your own imagination, and your own utterly meaningless position within the sheer size and scope of life as a whole, without tripping out a few times.
I would certainly call that exploring and trying new things. Of course in your impoverished, contrasting view of the world, people are
EITHER drug addled, miserable, addictive, uncreative failures at life
OR noble, amazing, incredible, logic defying, sober explorers of the finer things in life.
Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact it's amazing that you made all those posts without once questioning your own bizarre logic. I would wager there are more adult drinkers than non drinkers. Do they all fail at this life game? Does the mere fact that they want to use a drug mean they sit in blackened rooms for 23 hours a day banging there heads against a ****ing wall?