No I'm not that naive, I'm just saying it does happen.
Vinnie does actually seem a lot more reserved than he used to be.
I see that yourself and I have a different opinion, so basically we're just going to keep on repeating ourselves for ages lol.

This an expert, qualified opinion or just self righteous indignation?

The latter methinks!!!

I saw him play football. Animal. And I'm also entitled to my opinion, qualified or otherwise.

im worried that you think vinnie jones is cool, you are too young but i remember his violent past, he is holding it all in to keep the peace

i would love for alex to batter him

No I don't exactly think Vinnie Jones is cool, and definately not a role model but I can't help but like him. He just seems like a guy who's head seems to be in the right place at this moment in time, even if he was an animal in the past.
There's something that's telling me he's a different person.

Yeah, but I doubt your father went about battering people off the pitch too. That's the difference.

He should be in prision, or in a zoo..a leopard never changes its spots

Well yeah he did.
Used to pick fights with randomers, same as Vinnie in a way.

They might not change, but they can cool it.
Just as Vinnie seems to have done.
If you see any recent case of Vinnie's violence I think that's only way I may actually believe you.

But was he up in court for it? You know? I mean Vinnie assaulted people... not just scraps after a few pints.

So your dad was basically a violent chav?

Didnt some geezer cross dressed as a woman batter someone like that in swansea town centre..it was all over youtube..

these chavs were harrasing innocent people on a night out and got the **** kicked out of them

Now that's something I'd rather not tell you tbh.

That's fair enough hun.

He was quite violent in his younger days, although he was never a chav.
And nah he's never been to Swansea town center I don't think, and he certainly doesn't dress up as a woman :joker:

have you seen the video im referring to?

so he WAS in court...prison?

im worried about replying to you now, he might track me down for my anti vinnie jones ape comments seeing as he also fits the bill now..

Nope lol

He might have been, he might not have been. I don't want to say.
And for the second comment don't be so fucking ridiculous.

here is the video from swansea town centre...the chavs start hitting innocent people before a cross dressing cage fighter guy decks them!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNGw9mCxCug

TWO yobs have appeared in court after starting a fight with Spiderman — and getting knocked out by two cross-dressers.
Dean Jonathan Gardner, aged 19, and Jason Andrew Fender, aged 22, were arrested following two separate incidents in The Kingsway which took place just moments apart in the early hours of August 30.
But they picked the wrong victims on this occasion after being floored by two cross-dressers who are believed to have been cage fighters on a night out.
Police confronted Gardner and Fender, both of Llanerch Road, Bonymaen, nursing their injuries after identifying the unemployed pair from CCTV pictures which showed them fighting with people queuing outside the Escape club.

Lmfao that cross dresser is fucking hilarious!

im surprised you havent seen it before, it was a youtube hit..it happened in swansea...it shows that the violent chavs dont always win..sometimes they pick on the wrong people

i hope your dad wasnt like this

Swansea is a shithole anyway. It's full of ruffians.
And I hope my Dad wasn't that bad either, although I wouldn't know.

you don't know what your dad was like, you have admitted he was like a vinnie gorilla in his youth, perhaps parenthood mellowed him?

what about cardiff , what is that like?

Yeah I think that was part of it, although I do know some other factors that got him out of it but I don't want to post it on a forum where there is thousands of people I don't know.
Cardiff is okay, I'm from the nice areas. There is some areas which are really rough though.

The only thing I know about the place is that somewhere called 'cardiff bay' got renovated a few years back and now its a cool place with loads of bars etc, and also some castle called 'castle coch' which is supposed to be like a fairytale castle in the forest thats all

oh and a programme called gavin and stacey is based there