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hennessy 21-01-2010 05:12 PM

informer you're beginning to sound like a snob.

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900560)
3 strikes and you're out! You are aware that his past would be raised should he be convicted again, and reflected in a harsher sentence?

Yes, I am aware of that. I don't see what it has to do with anything.

informer 21-01-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900565)
PMSL, you must have led a sheltered life. Incidentally the picture shows dried blood on the neighbours face, so doesnt really show wounds, blood is a liquid and tends to move about. the picture is for shock value.

Would you physically attack a neighbour over a fence?

hennessy 21-01-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by informer (Post 2900558)
Would you be happy to see a rapist in the house on the basis that it was 'in the past'

Well Sisqo is guilty of statutory rape

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by informer (Post 2900572)
Would you physically attack a neighbour over a fence?

You're hearing one side of a misconstrued story. Who's to say the neighbor didn't instigate things?

And you can clearly see that the blood has spread/been smeared around his face.

informer 21-01-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite (Post 2900580)
You're hearing one side of a misconstrued story. Who's to say the neighbor didn't instigate things?

And you can clearly see that the blood has spread/been smeared around his face.

i think the fact vinnie has and will always been known as a violent thug proves it wasnt instigated by the neighbour

informer 21-01-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hennessy (Post 2900576)
Well Sisqo is guilty of statutory rape

rape is forced, i think the girl was underage..that isnt rape if she consented..

im not happy with sisqo but its possible that he thought she was older?

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by informer (Post 2900594)
rape is forced, i think the girl was underage..that isnt rape if she consented..

I do defend Sisqo on this but rape and statutory rape are different.

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite (Post 2900571)
Yes, I am aware of that. I don't see what it has to do with anything.

He has 2 convictions for violent assault, plus been in a brutal bar brawl and bit the nose of a Mirror journalist. That's at least 4 violent incidents tht we know of.

I reject your notion of the past, it's a license for everyone in the world to be violent and excuse themselves of their actions because some time has elapsed.

Shasown 21-01-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by informer (Post 2900588)
i think the fact vinnie has and will always been known as a violent thug proves it wasnt instigated by the neighbour

How does it? Surely proof would be a statement to that effect, not just a reputation. But hey when has the truth ever bothered you Gazza?

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900617)
He has 2 convictions for violent assault, plus been in a brutal bar brawl and bit the nose of a Mirror journalist. That's at least 4 violent incidents tht we know of.

I reject your notion of the past, it's a license for everyone in the world to be violent and excuse themselves of their actions because some time has elapsed.

I couldn't care if you 'reject my notion' :rolleyes: The fact is we're not talking aboiut how the legal system works.

And Mirror journalists need more than bite on the f-ing nose!

Shasown 21-01-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by informer (Post 2900594)
rape is forced, i think the girl was underage..that isnt rape if she consented..

im not happy with sisqo but its possible that he thought she was older?

Dont show your ignorance Paul.

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900631)
How does it? Surely proof would be a statement to that effect, not just a reputation. But hey when has the truth ever bothered you Gazza?

He was found guilty.

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite (Post 2900636)
I couldn't care if you 'reject my notion' :rolleyes: The fact is we're not talking aboiut how the legal system works.
And Mirror journalists need more than bite on the f-ing nose!

You said it didn't matter, that's an opinion. In law it does matter, that's a fact.

Shasown 21-01-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900639)
He was found guilty.

Good to see you understand how the law works, he actually plead guilty, and his plea of guilty was accepted by the court as was his statement of mitigation.

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900647)
You said it didn't matter, that's an opinion. In law it does matter, that's a fact.

When did I say his previous convictions wouldn't matter in a court of law? I didn't, don't put words in my mouth. What I did say was that we're not talking about law here.

informer 21-01-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900617)
He has 2 convictions for violent assault, plus been in a brutal bar brawl and bit the nose of a Mirror journalist. That's at least 4 violent incidents tht we know of.

I reject your notion of the past, it's a license for everyone in the world to be violent and excuse themselves of their actions because some time has elapsed.

Sends a chill down the spine of any decent human being hearing those incidents of violence

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900648)
Good to see you understand how the law works, he actually plead guilty, and his plea of guilty was accepted by the court as was his statement of mitigation.

He plead guilty = he was found guilty. There's no distinction in law wrt guilt.

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite (Post 2900654)
When did I say his previous convictions wouldn't matter in a court of law? I didn't, don't put words in my mouth. What I did say was that we're not talking about law here.

You said it didn't matter, do you want me to quote you?

informer 21-01-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900648)
Good to see you understand how the law works, he actually plead guilty, and his plea of guilty was accepted by the court as was his statement of mitigation.

So he is guilty of crime? thats all we need to know..thanks

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900660)
You said it didn't matter, do you want me to quote you?

Go ahead. :rolleyes:

Shasown 21-01-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900656)
He plead guilty = he was found guilty. There's no distinction in law wrt guilt.

Once again incorrect, if you go to trial and then plead guilty before a decision is made as to your guilt, you will receive a lesser sentence than if you go to trial pleading innocence and then get found guilty.

I would say it may be a technicality but it is a distinction in law.

BlackOrWhite 21-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 2900656)
He plead guilty = he was found guilty. There's no distinction in law wrt guilt.

You can't be found guilty if you've pleaded it.

informer 21-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900666)
Once again incorrect, if you go to trial and then plead guilty before a decision is made as to your guilt, you will receive a lesser sentence than if you go to trial pleading innocence and then get found guilty.

I would say it may be a technicality but it is a distinction in law.

The fact he has assaulted other human beings which makes him an animal in most peoples books

Nemo123 21-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2900666)
Once again incorrect, if you go to trial and then plead guilty before a decision is made as to your guilt, you will receive a lesser sentence than if you go to trial pleading innocence and then get found guilty.

I would say it may be a technicality but it is a distinction in law.

It's not, there's no distinction wrt guilt. For example you'll get a life sentence if you commit murder, whether you plead guilty or are found guilty.


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