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Mystic Mock 08-05-2010 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3217340)
Like I said, he TECHNICALLY lost, that's different from the literally saying "Cameron lost"
but thats why cameron should be in because he should choose who he reforms with it should not be brown leading the country again he got rejected cameron didnt.

ange7 08-05-2010 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3215151)
Tell that to someone who lives in a 70% Labour stronghold with a small population. I simply don't like...

1. My vote being rendered null and void when it comes to deciding the ruling party or even the main opposition.

2. Having no opportunity to vote for an independent candidate when I still have misgivings about the policies of all three main parties.

3. The electorate being consigned to tactical voting as a means to an end as opposed to voting for the party which actually represents their ideology.

Don't get me wrong, I recognise the weaknesses of PR and not every MP will an accurate representation of the the interests of their constituents, but at a national level, it the more democratic system.

Plus, anyone can draw comparisons to other countries with different political systems. What about the US and the failure the electoral college system which gave Bush an extremely dubious victory in 2000? I just think PR would work for the UK and believe a referendum would show that I am not the only one.
your vote isn't to decide the ruling party nor the pm... it's to decide your local member. 70% in your area voting lab doesn't mean your vote was worthless.... that's democracy.

I'd agree that some reform is needed though. A situation like the libdems getting 23 % of the total vote but only 57 or so seats versus lab getting 29% but 260 seats ..seems stupid.
Why don't you guys get rid of the house of lords and replace it with a proportionally elected senate. The senate ( upper house) would act as check on any new bill from the parliament ( lower house). At election time you'd vote twice... once for the upper house and once for the lower. That's the system here in oz. .... oh and before anyone rubbishes Australia...we didn't has a recession :P

Tom4784 08-05-2010 02:56 PM
I'm hoping that whoever does take No10 that the libdems get a good deal out of it, I'd like to see a fair few of their proposals and policies in action.

Vicky. 08-05-2010 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3215720)
Lib/Lab = 315 seats (still not enough for an overall majority so what assortment of "other" parties would want to get in bed with Brown & Co?)
Lib/Con = 363 seats - overall majority
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 3215722)
Vicky not enough seats,
so No such Pact.

Right...just curious why 2 posters...at the same time decided to pick out MY vote and criticize... take your pick from below of everyone who said the same thing. Just pretty annoying.

And I don't really know how hung parliament works anyways, I voted on what would be my best scenario...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayson (Post 3214852)
Lib/lab
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacey.x (Post 3214904)
Lib/Lab.
does this mean no-one has won?
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Originally Posted by MrsHudson (Post 3215148)
lib/lab
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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 3215150)
Lib/Lab
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Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar! (Post 3215153)
Lib/Lab/other progressive parties joined together...
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Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever (Post 3215330)
Lib/lab
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Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3215339)
Lib/Lab definantly but unfortunately I think Clegg is edging towards Cameron :'(
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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215655)
Lib/Lab
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3215665)
Lib/Lab

Tom4784 08-05-2010 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3217374)
Right...just curious why 2 posters...at the same time decided to pick out MY vote and criticize... take your pick from below of everyone who said the same thing. Just pretty annoying.

And I don't really know how hung parliament works anyways, I voted on what would be my best scenario...
Don't take Arista seriously, Talking politics with him is like discussing economics with a budgie.

ange7 08-05-2010 03:21 PM
yeah... they're victimizing you !!!. Why pick on you instead of any of the others.....ban them :P
What's the point of having superduper mod powers if you can't use them now and then.

Vicky. 08-05-2010 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3217419)
yeah... they're victimizing you !!!. Why pick on you instead of any of the others.....ban them :P
What's the point of having superduper mod powers if you can't use them now and then.
Umm yeah..I didnt mean that, was just curious as to why me thats all...

Shasown 08-05-2010 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3217356)
your vote isn't to decide the ruling party nor the pm... it's to decide your local member. 70% in your area voting lab doesn't mean your vote was worthless.... that's democracy.

I'd agree that some reform is needed though. A situation like the libdems getting 23 % of the total vote but only 57 or so seats versus lab getting 29% but 260 seats ..seems stupid.
Why don't you guys get rid of the house of lords and replace it with a proportionally elected senate. The senate ( upper house) would act as check on any new bill from the parliament ( lower house). At election time you'd vote twice... once for the upper house and once for the lower. That's the system here in oz. .... oh and before anyone rubbishes Australia...we didn't has a recession :P
True but lets face it, you are a country formed from the criminal rejects of this country and if we hadnt been nice you would still be bowing and scraping to us.

ange7 08-05-2010 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3217438)
True but lets face it, you are a country formed from the criminal rejects of this country and if we hadnt been nice you would still be bowing and scraping to us.
hehe
oh and hey thanks by the way.
Ps sorry we didn't have room for the posh inbreeds.... but then who would you guys have to vote for :P

Shasown 08-05-2010 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3217454)
hehe
oh and hey thanks by the way.
Ps sorry we didn't have room for the posh inbreeds.... but then who would you guys have to vote for :P
Hey we would never have sent our posh inbreeds out there, we kept them here for our amusement.

Ross 08-05-2010 05:29 PM
Lib/Lab.

Definately don't want Con.

Angus 08-05-2010 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3217374)
Right...just curious why 2 posters...at the same time decided to pick out MY vote and criticize... take your pick from below of everyone who said the same thing. Just pretty annoying.

And I don't really know how hung parliament works anyways, I voted on what would be my best scenario...
That was just a coincidence to be honest, not a personal attack at all. It could just as easily have been a response to any of those posts you mention. Just stating the figures really. A Con/Lib coalition could govern effectively because of sheer numbers. A Lab/Lib coalition could not, without getting other parties on board and making further concessions; it would be hard enough compromising one's policies with one other party, never mind with two or three others!

arista 08-05-2010 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross (Post 3217664)
Lib/Lab.

Definately don't want Con.

Ross you are Jr.Manager
you are clever

You can do the Maths.


Lib/Lab - Do not Have Enough seats .


David and Nick Do.

So its Out of your hands
and you and your Work Team
will soon have to Embrace the New PM David Cameron
who will have some LibDems in his new team.


Its on Newsnight right now
Saturday Edition.

arista 08-05-2010 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3217454)
hehe
oh and hey thanks by the way.
Ps sorry we didn't have room for the posh inbreeds.... but then who would you guys have to vote for :P


Posh
or Working class

It Does not Matter here in Our better UK Nation.



Of Course Down Under
Posh means one thing Rich enough to Electric fence
the local buggers out.

arista 08-05-2010 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3217398)
Don't take Arista seriously, Talking politics with him is like discussing economics with a budgie.

Dezzy


Vicky is a Clever Lady


She does not need you little Silly Jokes
so bugger of to another section.

Unless you are Going to Behave Yourself.

arista 08-05-2010 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3217419)
yeah... they're victimizing you !!!. Why pick on you instead of any of the others.....ban them :P
What's the point of having superduper mod powers if you can't use them now and then.


Down Under Forum Rules Do Not Work here.


Vicky is Cool.


We do not Ban Posters
for telling the Truth.

arista 08-05-2010 06:47 PM
'Right...just curious why 2 posters...at the same time decided to pick out MY vote and criticize... take your pick from below of everyone who said the same thing. Just pretty annoying.

And I don't really know how hung parliament works anyways, I voted on what would be my best scenario...'


Vicky Millions Voted
you are not alone.

This is the problem
its simple maths

Labour and Lib do not have enough seats
so they can not take over.

Conservative and LibDem do have enough seats.


And Today we have found out that they are both Working it Out.

So David will be our New PM soon.

And some LibDems will be part of the Conservative -LibDem Deal.

Now Enid said she will leave this Nation.

Please Vicky say you will stay
we need you.

arista 08-05-2010 07:26 PM
David and Nick

Met for a Private Meeting today
lasted 70mins.

Source: SkyNewsHD and BBC News

Vicky. 08-05-2010 07:32 PM
:laugh: I will not be leaving, no worries about that

Just not rich enough to benefit from conservatives being in power :(

Shasown 08-05-2010 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3218024)
:laugh: I will not be leaving, no worries about that

Just not rich enough to benefit from conservatives being in power :(
If they back up their manifesto promises with real action everyone benefits.

You think you are better off under Labour? Look how many stealth taxes they introduced over their term in office. Give with one hand and take twice as much back with hidden taxes.

Vicky. 08-05-2010 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3218035)
If they back up their manifesto promises with real action everyone benefits.
Cant see that happening to be honest, hopefully they surprise me, but I doubt it.

And as for labour, its kind of a case of better the devil you know...

King Gizzard 08-05-2010 07:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Don...41649879?ref=s

Love it

James 08-05-2010 07:47 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...0_1632314a.jpg

arista 08-05-2010 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3218024)
:laugh: I will not be leaving, no worries about that

Just not rich enough to benefit from conservatives being in power :(


This is Not about Wealth.

Both David and Nick are going to help
this Country.


Its Not Just Conservative Now
It is a LibDem And Conservative

Things Will Get Far Better.

Lucy. 08-05-2010 07:51 PM
It is totally about Wealth, Tories are in it to keep the rich rich and the poor poor.
It makes no sense for Clegg to side with Cons, people who voted Lib voted for leftist policies not right wing!


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