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toothpick 14-08-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 3660733)
its sickening and one of his kids (or someone that claimed to be) did post here for a few days but soon had to leave because of threads like this.
not a very good advert for tibb im afraid.

question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....

Josy 14-08-2010 10:05 PM

Deleted a few posts in here - Personal insults are not allowed!

Josy 14-08-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eviled2010 (Post 3660771)
Oh here we go...I have insulted no one

You insulted another member and that is against the rules.

Shasown 14-08-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by toothpick (Post 3660749)
question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....

He hasnt been a member of the armed forces for over 20 years.

No not all the army are like him, most have two eyes and two legs.

spitfire 14-08-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by toothpick (Post 3660749)
question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....

Was he an advert for The British Army?

Vicky. 14-08-2010 10:56 PM

Removed a load of off topic and insulting posts.

Personal grievances should be kept to PM, as I have said many times.

Princessblue 15-08-2010 09:11 AM

I find it incredibly sad that anyone even began a thread such as this.

Steve may not be a great housemate, he may not appeal to one and all, but that gives us no reason to judge. It was stated many times he is on medication and none of us have any idea what that medication can do to his body or mental health. All medication does something adverse.

It's a shame, that such ignorance is deemed publicly appropriate. The man is obviously in pain and more than likely will be for the entirety of his life and stats have proven those who have sustained injuries, limb losses, such as Steve has done and must maintain a rigourous schedule of medication have a shortened life span, the body simply can't endure, it takes extreme emotional and physical strength.

Sad to think there are people who are so selfish and insular as to not look beyond their own lives.

ElProximo 15-08-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3659137)
really heroic :rolleyes:
tax payers are the heroes here

Let me simplify it for you:

That bomb 'would' eventually be used to kill not just 1 tax-payer but even 8 tax-payers or 20 tax-payers would be PERMANENTLY eliminated from paying taxes and earning money for the UK.

Steve took that bomb instead.

Steve (who definitely pays loads of taxes) gets to be supplemented by those '10 living tax-payers' (thanks to him).

Now listen closely to the next part - it becomes a net gain for society and tax paying.
8 more tax-payers are now on their way to be making lifetimes of money and pay outrageous amounts of taxes.
Millions and millions of pounds of taxes.

In fact, Steve and his wife will produce enough tax money to pay for all your health care, retirement and the roads and... oh yeah.. the military that protects you.

So Steve is a massive PLUS for taxes you get to enjoy.
Also, Steve is a real man. (you don't know what that means).

MrWong 15-08-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Princessblue (Post 3662283)
I find it incredibly sad that anyone even began a thread such as this.

Steve may not be a great housemate, he may not appeal to one and all, but that gives us no reason to judge. It was stated many times he is on medication and none of us have any idea what that medication can do to his body or mental health. All medication does something adverse.

It's a shame, that such ignorance is deemed publicly appropriate. The man is obviously in pain and more than likely will be for the entirety of his life and stats have proven those who have sustained injuries, limb losses, such as Steve has done and must maintain a rigourous schedule of medication have a shortened life span, the body simply can't endure, it takes extreme emotional and physical strength.

Sad to think there are people who are so selfish and insular as to not look beyond their own lives.

Good post. A diamond in the rough.

MrWong 15-08-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662529)
so dave wont even be around to see his kids grow up :conf:

What the fluff has that got to do with what i posted?

Most of the posts in this thread are nasty, that paticular posters post wasn't. Hence the comment 'Diamond in the rough'.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 15-08-2010 11:11 AM

have you seen the footage bit for steve's eviction number? It's like they want to get sympathy votes. Instead of showing him plunked on the couch how he has been for most of the season they show him walking which reminds me of his disability and makes me feel sorry for him. :(

Shasown 15-08-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662537)
all im saying is can you pay for 8 children with 1 army pension
and does dave get extra money for every kid he has
and is that fair to society
:cat:

Same as anyone else in the UK Steve may be entitled to Child Tax Credits. He will also be entitled to claim Child Benefit, again same as anyone else in the UK who has kids.

If his wife works over 16 hours they may also be entitled to receive Working Tax Credits. Again their income will be assessed same as everyone elses.

Would you like him to be specifically excluded from receiving them? If so why?

Do you pay tax?

StGeorge 15-08-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662537)
all im saying is can you pay for 8 children with 1 army pension
and does dave get extra money for every kid he has
and is that fair to society
:cat:

Blorn..may i suggest you do your own research into just how much these guys get, and how much goes on how many kids etc, before you spout off about a subject you know nothing about and bring in the forum leeches to suck the thread dry of any decency.

The mods should of scrubbed this whole thread rather than just the odd post. Its quite clear that its just an attack on the armed forces in general and not Steve. He has never served in Iraq or Afganistan so why bring it up unless its just an anti army post?

I support all our armed forces and their families with my hard earned money, and i for one am proud to do so.
8 kids?? Well after this long seperation, they will probably be knocking out another soon....and i hope its twins to make it a nice round No 10.
Good luck to him.:dance:

StGeorge 15-08-2010 11:20 AM

BTW

I have made it clear that i dont have any favs this year as there has not been any that really warrant my support.

But, thanks to the imbeciles on this thread....and even though i dont think he has done much....i now want Steve to win just to shove it big time up the Rsols of those that slag off our armed forces.

Livia 15-08-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3659705)
can a military pension support 8 kids?

There are MANY less deserving cases who milk money from the government. It is nothing to do with any of you how he makes his money. Why not the same outrage for everyone else on there who doesn't have a job? Maybe Steve wife works... and even if she doesn't it really is none of your business.

If you hate Steve as a housemate, fine. But all this criticism of him because of his background, his disability, his army service is completely out of order, and it's DEEPLY insulting to everyone on here who has served, or has someone serving in the army. I'm absolutely amazed these hysterical, ill-informed threads are allowed to stand and it says something that most of the people talking out of their backsides on here are on my ignore list. With a few more going on this morning.

I hope the more shallow people on this forum never, ever have to cope with any kind of disability; but if that tragedy was to happen, perhaps it would be poetic justic to have to put up with people sitting on a forum, probably not eventhemselves but being supported by their parents, pour scorn on them.

Livia 15-08-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StGeorge (Post 3662581)
BTW

I have made it clear that i dont have any favs this year as there has not been any that really warrant my support.

But, thanks to the imbeciles on this thread....and even though i dont think he has done much....i now want Steve to win just to shove it big time up the Rsols of those that slag off our armed forces.

Hey St G. Doesn't get any better, does it. I've never seen so much ill-informed, childish rubbish since the last batch of poorly-constructed anti-Steve posts.

Shasown 15-08-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662596)
ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

Then why not post a thread about that in the appropriate forum?

At the moment it still looks like you are having a pop at Steve over something you have very little knowledge about.

Yes I am a tax payer, and have been for over 30 years. Do you pay tax?

StGeorge 15-08-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 3662586)
Hey St G. Doesn't get any better, does it. I've never seen so much ill-informed, childish rubbish since the last batch of poorly-constructed anti-Steve posts.

Unfortunately Livia there are some uneducated morons who will slag off anything just to get a rise in people.
I'm satisfied with the knowledge that our armed forces are doing a good job, and deserve more for their sacrifices. The decent and honest people of Iraq & Afganistan seem to be more grateful to our personnel than the low life found on this forum.

Livia 15-08-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662596)
ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

Yes I am a taxpayer. Thing is, this is a Big Brother forum so a discussion about social funding is out of place here. If you're worried about the way the government spends you tax, assuming you pay tax, get in touch with your MP and voice your concerns. You don't know anything about Steve, how he funds his lifestyle, how much his military pension is or whether his wife (and ex-wife) works. Until you do, the argument that started this thread is meaningless.


My last post to you. Ta ta...

StGeorge 15-08-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662596)
ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

When you put it like that, then my belief is there should be a limit to how many kids can be eligible for benefits etc....it should not be used as some do as a cash cow to finance their fags and booze mentality.

But when you start a thread like this:

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662596)
Steve hasnt worked in 20 years and has 8 kids

really heroic
tax payers are the heroes here :

then i think its quite clear you are having a pop at Steve and the fact he was a soldier....otherwise why the hero bit?

StGeorge 15-08-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662628)
you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
but youre assuming hes not asking the tax payer to do it
and everything he does is above board
yes its about big brother but big brother is about the characters of the people in the house
which is what im discussing here:cat:

I think its you who are doing the assuming....all Livia has done is state the blindingly obvious....he gets a military pension. Duh.

The rest is just speculation but he does get a military pension....when are you numpties gonna get that into your heads HE GETS A MILITARY PENSION

There, is that loud enough?

JustKaz 15-08-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662628)
you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
but youre assuming hes not asking the tax payer to do it
and everything he does is above board
yes its about big brother but big brother is about the characters of the people in the house
which is what im discussing here:cat:

BLORN It beats me why you haven't made sense of Livia and, st Goeorge's post to name just two to understand you have got too deep into trying to justify your initial post. re read their posts

firstly this whole thread should have been deleted not just a few posts.

steve's wife works and possibly pays into a pension who know it is NONE of our business.

you think Steve thought, oh I'll join the army may get blown up, but hey I might be ok might survive and live off the pension (which HE would have paid into, albie it sadly for just a few years of his YOUNG life at that time????? You saying he should have though OH now I should NOT have children???

Yes he will get some sort of tax credit for the children he has under 16 and not in education, the amount? i think depend on wifes earning, as do WTC that she may or may NOT get. Just like thousands of other people working and his wife IS.

BLORIN you may not of realise what you were insigating when you started this thread.I hope not. Some of the comment are disgracful, and offensive

StGeorge 15-08-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3662628)
you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
:

And as for his lifestyle????

He cant afford to buy the legs that will make his lifestyle more comfortable. I believe thats why he is in here to hopefully win the money to do so.

He maybe be able to buy a comfortable wheelchair so he doesnt get sores on his arse....he maybe able to buy the beer he needs to cheer himself up....i havent seen him light up so he doesnt need to finance his smoking lifestyle....and looking at his message from home, he doesnt seem to live in a house full of luxuries, and more just an ordinary place to accomodate his lifestyle.

But guess what Blorn....i havent the foggiest what his lifestyle is or how its financed other than his military pension and the usual benefits associated with a family that every other person is entitled to....including you.
I dont think half what's paid out is justified, but i do believe that people like Steve Gill deserve every bloody penny.

moghirl 15-08-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crit (Post 3659863)
I dont particularly like what Ive seen of this guy. I dont think it would make much difference were he to have both his legs and 2 eyes, he'd still be the same person......someone I dont like.


However if anyone is entitled to benefits its him just for the mental trauma alone but I think he will have had a good pension from the army....and deserved every penny of it....

Did I mention I still dont like him one little bit. Horrible man.

Agree with what you say that he's entitled to benefits for the awfu mentall trauma and horrific injuries .. but imo, HM's are reluctant to vote Steve out because of his disabilities .. were he able-bodied, he would've been voted out weeks ago .. the truth of the matter is .. Steve is boring .. legs or no legs .. he's not a particularly nice person.

Shasown 15-08-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BLORN (Post 3663058)
im not saying hes not entitled to benefits
but is he entitled to having as many kids as he wants at the taxpayers expense

Is anyone who has or has had kids entitled to? Lets face it pretty much everyone uses the NHS for antenatal checks, delivery and then post natal treatments, should this be done at tax payers expense?

Or would you prefer the government to legislate that certain income bands are allowed children and how many, if you dont earn anything, you cant have any kids, after reaching your level for your current income you are then permanently and irreversibly sterilised.

Interesting world you want us to live in eh?


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