Just quit it, whichever way you cut it she's not a flop. Your opinion isn't fact and it's just embarassing to see your flailing attempts to justify it as so.

Its gone platinum, its hardly a flop

Meanwhile 3 out of 5 songs off that album have gone in at number 1, the other at #4 and the other at #8. Her last single went in at #1, thats quite impressive considering most people buy the album and the single sales tail off by the end of the album and it wasn't promoted on XF. Her only remote flop is Broken Heels at #8 but that was released in a very competitive week and outsold equivalent singles by other XF winners.

Not surprised Joe didn't do so well in the charts!. Lets be honest, when you all voted for him, he was never going to scale the heights of say Leona or Alexandra Burke.

I also must add that if Stacey won last year i don't think she would have done any better either. I just feel that last year was a bad year, the quality wasn't as good and we were never really going to get a huge star unlike previous years. Ollis done well mind it has to be said, but is that just a one off?

I'd say last year had, overall, a greater standard of talent than the year before, but the voting public let the better acts slip out of the competition at the midway point. Miss Frank, Rachel Adedeji, Lucie Jones, Jamie Archer and Danyl Johnson all had fantastic voices and, IMO, would have gone on to be better winners than Joe, Olly or Stacey who ended up making it to the final. Even John and Edward would have made better winners, they at least have boundless energy and determination to achieve their goals.

He's dropped 15 places to 21 :eek:

But doesnt the album have a ton of pre-orders?

The album is out tomorrow, right? If that doesn't get #1 then he's definitely in trouble. Who elses albums come out this week?

Cheryl?

October 25
Charlotte Church: 'Back To Scratch'
Joe McElderry: 'Wide Awake'
Taylor Swift: 'Speak Now'
The Wanted: 'The Wanted'

hoping the KOL can stay at no1 tho :D

Cheryl's single is out this week, don't think her album is

The Wanted... he's up against thousands of teenage girls then

What do u expect the song is ****en awful and the video well let's not even talk about that lol

Oh right, i had her muted when she was on so I couldnt hear...

Cheryls next album isnt due out until 1st November

and Taylor Swift

I have to admit that's some drop in the first 2 weeks of release,

I am near hysterics with this comment, nice one.

So was the highest he got with it #4?

he was an obvious flop the second he won - he should never have won this show as he had nothing but a nice voice and a cute face - nothing unique or marketable about him

it comes down to the demographics that actually pick up the phone and vote - he is a granny's delight and at that time was eye candy for the teenage girls. Problem is he was a forgettable granny's delight / eye candy for teenage girls and the 'voting public' have easily forgotten him

His 'comeback' on XF hardly blew anyone away either, i think he will go the same way as Leon (who IMO was another unworthy winner)

How many people have truly went on to become consistent stars? JLS? Leona Lewis?

and Alexandra Burke.

ambitions got #6 :/

ambitions got #6 :/