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Shasown 15-09-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563554)
Possibly because when people aint' telling the truth, they naturally trip themselves up.

Must be the mocassins.

It could of course have simply been a Freudian slip, but enough of the psychology eh?

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563559)
Ok, hello pyramid! I'm going to leave this thread now because apparently on this forum you operate a policy of "agree with us or **** off". It been nice having the debate though!


Nope. I'm a genera member, same as you. One who doesn't put up with pathetic insults when another member is bang out of order.


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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563560)
It could of course have simply been a Freudian slip, but enough of the psychology eh?

Nah... barking up wrong trees.

Humour my good man... humour!!!

Mystic Mock 15-09-2011 05:16 PM

Ok if we can joke about Fat people then we can also joke about Black people,Asian people,White people,Gays and Lesbians,Transexuals,and Religions.

Afterall you cant just mock Fat people and think its fine but if you mock anybodys colour or sexuality,its your bad for saying that.

arista 15-09-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563576)
Ok if we can joke about Fat people then we can also joke about Black people,Asian people,White people,Gays and Lesbians,Transexuals,and Religions.

Afterall you cant just mock Fat people and think its fine but if you mock anybodys colour or sexuality,its your bad for saying that.




No just Fat people
he does not want a War.



Fat Jokes can be any Color Person.

Beastie 15-09-2011 05:19 PM

He's right. We need to get people eating more healthily and stop being obese.

There are healthy people getting cancer while fat people are getting cancers and diseases but because it is their own fault of what they have put in their mouth.

Okay some fat people have psychological problems and people shouldn't be as narrow minded when they see a fat person walking down the street.

But the supermarkets need to decrease the price in good quality products like fruit and veg!

Stop playing on the games consoles and get off your fat arse and do something!! Like a long walk at least. No excuse that "oh it's raining".

However people need to stop being picky. Obesity is a problem. But what is NOT a problem is people who are a bit overweight and curvylicious and are a size 14/16.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563576)
Ok if we can joke about Fat people then we can also joke about Black people,Asian people,White people,Gays and Lesbians,Transexuals,and Religions.

Afterall you cant just mock Fat people and think its fine but if you mock anybodys colour or sexuality,its your bad for saying that.


Not one fat person is borne 20stone.

As God is my witness.

arista 15-09-2011 05:21 PM

"He's right. We need to get people eating more healthily and stop being obese."


Yes thats what the debate was all about
Richard Bacon did not push him much on his Fat Joke Demand.

Beastie 15-09-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563576)
Ok if we can joke about Fat people then we can also joke about Black people,Asian people,White people,Gays and Lesbians,Transexuals,and Religions.

Afterall you cant just mock Fat people and think its fine but if you mock anybodys colour or sexuality,its your bad for saying that.

True. But being fat is more life threatening. You should have freedom of speech but yeah in terms of what other things you can joke about.. like Arista said that could cause a war and ****.

But also... if we can joke about fat people we should be able to joke about skinny people too? I think though it's more life threatening being fat. If you are skinny.. well it's usually easier to put on the weight than lose it!

Ryan. 15-09-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastie (Post 4563583)
He's right. We need to get people eating more healthily and stop being obese.

There are healthy people getting cancer while fat people are getting cancers and diseases but because it is their own fault of what they have put in their mouth.

Okay some fat people have psychological problems and people shouldn't be as narrow minded when they see a fat person walking down the street.

But the supermarkets need to decrease the price in good quality products like fruit and veg!

Stop playing on the games consoles and get off your fat arse and do something!! Like a long walk at least. No excuse that "oh it's raining".

However people need to stop being picky. Obesity is a problem. But what is NOT a problem is people who are a bit overweight and curvylicious and are a size 14/16.

Now see this I agree with. Its ludicrous that you can buy a bag of crisps and a drink for less than an apple.

Shasown 15-09-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563592)
Now see this I agree with. Its ludicrous that you can buy a bag of crisps and a drink for less than an apple.

Welcome back Ryan, put your ball down over there mate.


Very true but certain brands of foodstuff have their own pricing policies, etc.

Mind you some fruit and veg is so soaked in pesticides and preservatives it might be healthier eating the crisps.

Marc 15-09-2011 05:35 PM

A tax on bad food. They've spoken about it in the past, but if they do that then poorer people will just starve!

Mystic Mock 15-09-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 4563580)
No just Fat people
he does not want a War.



Fat Jokes can be any Color Person.

I know it can be any coloured person,but I was just throwing out an example.

I just dont get why its ok to mock Fat people but if you mock somebodys colour or sexuality,you have people calling you a Racist or Homophobic left,right,and center,its stupid and hypocritical.

Shasown 15-09-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563617)
I know it can be any coloured person,but I was just throwing out an example.

Yeah however obesity is something that is bad for the sufferers health, it has a detrimental effect on their relatives health, and its can be fairly easily remedied in a lot of cases if the person is given sufficient incentive and motivation. Not to mention its a drain on health services resources currently and anticipated to be more so in the future.

In a few years time when you cant get a much needed operation to improve your quality of life because of all the lardies have spent the budget on having their second or third set of liposuction, will you see the humour in the situation of you defending them today?

I dont think age, gender, colour, race, creed and sexual preferences fall into the same sort of category, but feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563617)
I know it can be any coloured person,but I was just throwing out an example.

I just dont get why its ok to mock Fat people but if you mock somebodys colour or sexuality,you have people calling you a Racist or Homophobic left,right,and center,its stupid and hypocritical.

Most fat people are fat due to what they are eating, the amount vs their lack of desire to burn up the amount of calories they consume. Most, not all, but generally. It can be avoided. They are abusing their bodies.

Black people have no choice in the colour of skin that they are born with. It cannot be avoided. they are not abusing their bodies.

Do you see the difference?

Mystic Mock 15-09-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563625)
Yeah however obesity is something that is bad for the sufferers health, it has a detrimental effect on their relatives health, and its can be fairly easily remedied in a lot of cases if the person is given sufficient incentive and motivation. Not to mention its a drain on health services resources currently and anticipated to be more so in the future.

In a few years time when you cant get a much needed operation to improve your quality of life because of all the lardies have spent the budget on having their second or third set of liposuction, will you see the humour in the situation of you defending them today?

I dont think age, gender, colour, race, creed and sexual preferences fall into the same sort of category, but feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Im saying that people just make a joke about anything other than Fat people (they probably dont even mean it) and they get attacked by the leftie brigade saying that your a Racist,Homophobic,or Ageist.

Shasown 15-09-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563648)
Im saying that people just make a joke about anything other than Fat people (they probably dont even mean it) and they get attacked by the leftie brigade saying that your a Racist,Homophobic,or Ageist.

Yes I understand that part of your recent posts.

However Mr Skinner was making a joke to get over the point that a lot of obese people simply need motivation and incentive to slim down, or stop eating junk food. A good way of motivating people into doing things for themselves or standing up for themselves is to ridicule them.

lostalex 15-09-2011 05:59 PM

It's just stupid to say that fat people should "just stop eating" it's like saying to a heroin addict "just stop".

Addiction is not that simple, it's a disease. Educate yourselves.

All addiction is the same in the brain... food, sex, drugs, gambling..
It is so patronizing to say "well just stop". just because you can eat or gamble or have sex in moderation does not mean it's the same for a person with an addiction.

Open your mind and realize that if it was that simple of course they would do so. If it was that simple of course they would.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4563659)
It's just stupid to say that fat people should "just stop eating" it's like saying to a heroin addict "just stop".

Addiction is not that simple, it's a disease. Educate yourselves.

So you are implying that ALL FAT / OVERWEIGHT people are addicts?

Shasown 15-09-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4563659)
It's just stupid to say that fat people should "just stop eating" it's like saying to a heroin addict "just stop".

Addiction is not that simple, it's a disease. Educate yourselves.

But in a lot of cases its not food addiction, its laziness, lack of motivation, ignorance and simple greed.

Physician, heal thyself.

Mystic Mock 15-09-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563654)
Yes I understand that part of your recent posts.

However Mr Skinner was making a joke to get over the point that a lot of obese people simply need motivation and incentive to slim down, or stop eating junk food. A good way of motivating people into doing things for themselves or standing up for themselves is to ridicule them.

How about freedom of choice and let them do what they want as there not hurting anybody.

Shasown 15-09-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563667)
How about freedom of choice and let them do what they want as there not hurting anybody.

Read post #88

Think about it. Especially the first two paragraphs

Oh and its they're

Homophones eh?

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4563667)
How about freedom of choice and let them do what they want as there not hurting anybody.

They impact on the economy in respect of health issues yet pay very little back in return pro rata.

They take up far too much room on plane seats and I object to having to pay for one measly kilo over my luggage allowance when some gannit weights two and three times my body weight.

Also: since I'm quite small, if an obese person sits in a seat in front of me at the cinema - I cannot see past their more than ample frame and I am the one inconvenienced..

lostalex 15-09-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563682)
They impact on the economy in respect of health issues yet pay very little back in return pro rata.

They take up far too much room on plane seats and I object to having to pay for one measly kilo over my luggage allowance when some gannit weights two and three times my body weight.

Also: since I'm quite small, if an obese person sits in a seat in front of me at the cinema - I cannot see past their more than ample frame and I am the one inconvenienced..

so everyone that is a burden to you, should face shame? Well how abouyt people with disabilities? do you also resent them?? also children..., poeple that don't speak your language??

How many inconviences are you willing to suffer to live in a diverse world??

This is a diverse world, we are not all the same, we all have different struggles. Get used to it.

Mystic Mock 15-09-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563672)
Read post #88

Think about it. Especially the first two paragraphs

Oh and its they're

Homophones eh?

1. I dont give a **** about there or they"re.

2. Its not just Fat people draining our resources,as we have got nuclear Power Plants as far as the eye can see thats draining alot of our resources,then just people driving in cars or motorbikes are also draining our resources also.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4563688)
so everyone that is a burden to you, should face shame? Well how abouyt people with disabilities? do you also resent them?? also children..., poeple that don't speak your language??

How many inconviences are you willing to suffer to live in a diverse world??

This is a diverse world, we are not all the same, we all have different struggles. Get used to it.


*reverts back to kindergarten*

Make me.


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