Both as bad as each other, but she spends most of the day vertical,he doesnt

he doesn't have the oppurtunity to socialize, she terrorizes him whenever he tries to join the group.

If I had a 'fat shrew' such as Michael following me around I certainly wouldn't be giving him a massage that's for certain. It would only make him believe he had a chance when in fact he does not.

Oh please :bored:

That's how I interpreted it too, but I've heard so many cries of 'he's just friendly with him because it's in his own interests that I'm not so sure. Andrew isn't someone who makes much sense to me.

Now you are are just clearly posting rubbish, when has Michael ever followed Denise around in there?

Andrew gave more entertainment to the house than lots of the others( some of it cringworthy, but still entertaining ),IMO Michael betrayed him

before the problems arose Michael gave Denise a massage in the kitchen, Denise was clearly loving it and interpreting it as more than just a massage. If you are not interested in someone it is cruel to give them the impression that you are, and if you do, then you reap what you sow. That's what is happening to Michael now imo.

He has his spats with her, then slopes off to the bedroom to either talk to the cameras or backstab her to anyone who will listen

He gave her 1 massage, so did Gareth did he lead her on too?

If you are going to debate at least debate with truths not lies, he has never once followed her around in there so why post that?

So.....by that logic, Gareth also fancies Denise and Andrew fancied Michael?

Again I think it's pretty clear you never read my post, he does not and hasnt ever followed Denise around in that house.

Seeing as hes laid on his bed 23 hours a day you could well be right :sleep: ,but hes NOT a poor little picked on innocent either,

It seems to me that you have no arguments other than to use derogatory insults like 'you post rubbish' or 'lies'. I'd advise you that you are out of your depth if that's the case.

Maybe they do, I have no idea.

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Gareth is jumping back into the closet then? :laugh:

I posted my arguments but because you can't reply you start throwing around accusations?

And I also don't need you to advise me on anything thank you :)

egggsactly. basically the people who are denise's side are saying he'd be damned if he did and damned if he didn't, MIchael was trying to be friendly with her at first, so that means he deserves everything he gets? It's basically like FATAL ATTRACTION.

So basically Michael should just be rude and horrible to her, because if he's polite to her, then that means he DESERVERS to be harassed and terrorized?

If I gave someone a massage it would probably be because I liked them or there was absolutely no feeling whatsoever. If it were the latter, it would be because it was plainly obvious to everybody that I had no interest in that person other than friendship and visa versa.

I don't think you can say that about the massage that Michael and Denise shared. I'm not saying everyone acts like I do, but if you don't want problems don't get involved. Michael got involved and now he has problems.

I have no problem giving females masages , i'm gay though, so does that mean i should never give any females a massage because they might think i'm comming on to them? If they go ape-sh!t like denise, then it's my own fault for being friends with a woman that i'm not attracted to??
really?

I am on NO side ,I see things the Michael/Denise fans dont look for, they need to take off the rose tinted specs and see things as the really are ,BOTH as bad as each other, without Denise Michael is nothing, his highlights will be him backstabbing her and talking to the camera about her ,or laid on his bed !! enthralling? not in my eyes

Even her "friends" know she's out of order with him when she's drunk. They really should tell her to take her husbands advice and lay of the booze while she's in there, she's embarrassing herself.

Insults are not arguments, they are words thrown in to cover up lack of arguments. Every single person in this forum knows that so don't blame me as it's not my fault, and I'm just the messenger. The normal process when you insult someone is to apologise.

I have not once stated that Michael was following her around. Not even once you are insulting me about things I have never even said, so get your facts straight before you stumble in next time.

I have nothing else to say to you on the matter.

You are clearly watching a different show. But then, I always think that of you when I see who you're backing.