Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5000748)

Sorry to hear that, stories like this must be really maddening for you.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5000694)

And there we have what? You actually want your country run by people with private wealth behind them? I thought you were a socialist? It appears not. You're about a socialist as multi-millionaire Tony Blair.

It obviously doesn't take a genius to defraud a DWP that's been haemorraging cash for the whole of Labour's term. They didn't spot it for eight years... but of course, the Tories will be responsible for the whole ten years I'm guessing.

And this is you NOT condoning her actions? LOL... Okay.

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5000755)

It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5000770)

Thanks. Definitely infuriates me, it's the unbelievable selfishness that gets me the most. How they think it's perfectly fine to take what they want as they please without contributing anything to the community.

Especially in the current climate when people are losing their jobs and homes that they worked so hard for in their lives.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000782)

Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5000735)

What kind of house was she in? Did no one find it odd that this woman with 10 kids was living in a 2 up 2 down backstreet of Manchester? Ridiculous. My younger brother has cerebral palsy and has struggled for funding on all sorts of equipment, been on endless waiting lists to join groups and care centres and women like this just make it harder for everyone. Scum, she should be hung.

Originally Posted by Angus (Post 5000924)

I can imagine this sort of story must absolutely infuriate you - it certainly does me. Your brother, through no fault of his own suffers from a disability for which he requires essential equipment, yet the funding is erratic if not non-existent. However, parasites like this scumbag defraud the system of money they invariably don't actually need, but to which they feel some sort of entitlement. Absolutely disgraceful. The punishments for these sorts of crime need to always be custodial, otherwise where is the deterrent?

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000782)

Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001105)

People will always try to con the system, and regardless of whether the government is Tory or Labour.

Whilst everyone is trying to stop the steam coming out of their ears on this, how about if you were told that the economy loses far more from rich people dodging personal and business taxes?

Because that's what currently happens.

This woman is in the wrong to do this, no doubt about it, but this is the typical ploy of rags like "The S*n." Demonising the poor, is their standard fare. This woman will be prosecuted, but where are the investigations into the rich tax dodgers, funneling their millions to "tax-friendly" places?

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5001111)

could not agree more!

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000775)

Stop misquoting me livia, respond to what i say and not what you want to think i said...I am not a socialist either, please dont label me.
Im in favour of welfare reforms, they are not the issue in discussion though are they?Its the way the red tops demonise certain groups in an attempt to whip the public into a feeding frenzy of hatred over said group. Its working perfectly.
Once again i DO NOT condone her actions, as your 'LOL ...Okay' suggests you dont believe me .
We have a different view, the difference is i respect you for yours.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001206)

Neither are MP's expenses.

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5000755)

It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5001280)

Hang on she only has 2 fit kids?
Thats a bit nazi like?


She is a Out Right Stinking Criminal.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5001220)

Well done, very evasive spend a lot of time in the commons livia?
My point, that has been smokescreened... has been highlighted very well by jesus.

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001291)

Arista says children are "fit"
You heard
it here
first

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001295)

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001295)

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001350)

Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?