Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751553)

I didn't come here til after BB11 - so don't know what it was like on here. Ben was by far the best of a bad lot for me that year. His fans were all so articulate. I'm an 'articulateness' (probably not a word) snob.:joker: A better class of poster :kiss: Fed into my need to ingratiate myself with my social betters................ If you need to ask a question or need help, there should be, and is, a point of contact. On other sites, the mods can happily and easily post to advise that a thread gets back on track as a site MOD, unidentified as an individual. Well, as a moderator on this site, I know I wouldn't stick around if I wasn't allowed post my opinion on Big Brother.............that was why I joined in the first place after all........are you expecting people to give up their time, unpaid, to just infract people and not actually be apart of the forum?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5751556)

Giving your opinions is fine it's when those opinions start to upset other people thats when I think someone should be told,just my opinion of course,

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751557)

There should be a separation, though, of the position of authority (which is necessary and great) and the position of a poster (which is necessary and great). Post as a mod when you're a mod; post as an individual otherwise. It's not rocket science - it works perfectly well elsewhere and avoids the pitfalls of sychophancy and tip-toeing and publicly aired vendettas.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5751564)

Hi Niamh. If you read back through the thread, that's not what I'm saying at all. Be 'Niamh' the poster. Also be a mod. No problem. But everyone knowing you're a mod changes the tone of their interaction with you and around you. When you post as a mod, use a generic forum sig. Then you get to do your job and you also get to post when and what you want.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5751572)

Ah yes I get it now, bennite haha! Pyra and I clashed massively on most things socially and politically funnily enough,we were both quite dogmatic with our views:) She was probably one of the friendliest posters in the forum to new members. We had some great debates, and I miss her.

Originally Posted by Doogle (Post 5751575)

I appreciate that, but opinions are something that will never please everyone (as we're witnessing right now since I'm replying to this haha) and I think that a mod should still be able to express their views as long as they are of course sticking to the rules of the forum. I think for the most part the forum works very well with moderators and members sort of being on a similar level. It may look strange and of course I'm not speaking on behalf of the mods but I do think it's nice that the mods can give their thoughts as well as have to do the job of helping people and cleaning the forum. It's only the occasional vendetta and it really isn't that often. If a mod was abusing their power that much, they would have those rights taken away from them. I'm fairly certain of that.

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751573)

Well, that's not up to us, that's up to admin, there's not a whole lot we can do about that

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5751579)

Again, I'm simply entering the discusssion. It's a fairly academic point now, as the mods are known and identified and you can't reverse the flow. It's just a point in a discussion.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5751604)

So basically what you're suggesting is that every Moderator action should be done anonymously, which'd just make the Mods less accountable?

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751596)

I'm simply answering the question that was posed in the OP - as someone who joined in 2010. Well, Infractions are given from an anonymous staff account but everyone knows who the mods are, that's not our choice, it's just the way it's always been. tbh most people on the forum don't have a problem with it, I think most people here can still have a laugh with us as easy as they would with any other member but like I said, that's the way it is, it's not our choice but we all seem to manage just fine

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751609)

The site needs to be accountable - with proper appeal and review systems in place; not individual mods. Large sites have dozens, probably hundreds, of moderators. The lines are too blurred on here. My opinion.

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751609)

The site needs to be accountable - with proper appeal and review systems in place; not individual mods. Large sites have dozens, probably hundreds, of moderators. The lines are too blurred on here. My opinion.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5751626)

You've hardly even posted here in the 2/3 years you've been a member, how could you possibly know that? We obviously are no where near as busy enough a site to have "hundreds" of mods, I don't know what exactly you're suggesting?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5751572)

Ah yes I get it now, bennite haha!
Pyra and I clashed massively on most things socially and politically funnily enough,we were both quite dogmatic with our views:)
She was probably one of the friendliest posters in the forum to new members.
We had some great debates, and I miss her.

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751585)

She was a diamond. Smart, witty and unreverentially passionate. However, and this is the important part - the craic on the discussion boards was only ever that for Mids; she never judged someone by their opinions. She could disagree fundamentally with you and she was like a dog with a bone. But she had a heart of gold and she'd do anything for you.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5751635)

Well there is an appeals sub forum here which members can use privately where their posts are only seen by the Mods and Admin. True large sites do have a lot more Mods and maybe they do have a more efficient system, but it's not necessarily feasible on here given how this forum is quite small and tighter knit comparatively

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751641)

Why so defensive Niamh? I'm busy. I came back when I heard that my good friend Mids had died and posted on her tribute thread - then, having renewed my password, I continued to post. I'm suggesting, quite clearly, that moderators - be they posters or not - should post anonymously and professionally as moderators.

Originally Posted by Doogle (Post 5751575)

I appreciate that, but opinions are something that will never please everyone (as we're witnessing right now since I'm replying to this haha) and I think that a mod should still be able to express their views as long as they are of course sticking to the rules of the forum.



I think for the most part the forum works very well with moderators and members sort of being on a similar level. It may look strange and of course I'm not speaking on behalf of the mods but I do think it's nice that the mods can give their thoughts as well as have to do the job of helping people and cleaning the forum. It's only the occasional vendetta and it really isn't that often. If a mod was abusing their power that much, they would have those rights taken away from them. I'm fairly certain of that.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 5751656)

I'd also tell them to avoid this thread

Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 5751573)

Hi Niamh. If you read back through the thread, that's not what I'm saying at all. Be 'Niamh' the poster. Also be a mod. No problem. But everyone knowing you're a mod changes the tone of their interaction with you and around you. When you post as a mod, use a generic forum sig. Then you get to do your job and you also get to post when and what you want.

Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 5751672)

It doesn't change the interaction at all.