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Novo 04-04-2013 11:49 AM

https://twitter.com/kim_tastiic/stat...88114240778240

Niall is getting treble teamed now

Novo 04-04-2013 11:52 AM

But yeah they haven't threatened war on the rest of the World they have threatened War on Countries they feel they have to defend themselves against.. if you read more about the 2010 attack on South Korea you will find that South Korea were doing Military Drills on the Border and if another country is flying nuclear capable planes nearby your going to be pissed off.. and there just two of the main incidents we know about.. there is certainty a lot more we don't know about, I don't really agree with the way either side are handling the Situation though

BBfanUSA 04-04-2013 12:02 PM

You do realize that NK has kind of brought this incident on themselves. They cut off the lines to South Korea so there's no diplomatic contact. I'm sure US has tried to reason with NK but NK has said nope. US set up the missile system as a precaution.

Niall 04-04-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5919078)

:laugh:

Niall 04-04-2013 12:32 PM

I actually regret tweeting that. That argument wasn't fun at all. :bored:

arista 04-04-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BBfanUSA (Post 5919102)
You do realize that NK has kind of brought this incident on themselves. They cut off the lines to South Korea so there's no diplomatic contact. I'm sure US has tried to reason with NK but NK has said nope. US set up the missile system as a precaution.


What if America makes a error
and starts WW3

Niall 04-04-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5919087)
But yeah they haven't threatened war on the rest of the World they have threatened War on Countries they feel they have to defend themselves against.. if you read more about the 2010 attack on South Korea you will find that South Korea were doing Military Drills on the Border and if another country is flying nuclear capable planes nearby your going to be pissed off.. and there just two of the main incidents we know about.. there is certainty a lot more we don't know about, I don't really agree with the way either side are handling the Situation though

I didn't mean the world anyway, I meant South Korea/America/Japan but I couldn't say all that because of Twitter's dumb character limit.

I don't know too much about the incident with that island so I can't really comment, but about these military drills this year, well the DPRK has never really offered such a strong reaction to them before.

Like I was saying on Twitter, I think this reaction to it all is just the ruling elite fearing their own overthrowing of power in North Korea. The fact that it's a small group of people making all these decisions to safeguard their own cushy lives is a lot more sinister to me than what the US/South Korea are doing - i.e trying to deter any attacks on their population through provocative displays of their power.

Iceman 04-04-2013 12:52 PM

that argument was fun to watch though!! poor niall

Niall 04-04-2013 12:52 PM

I can't argue on Twitter. The character limit ruins what I want to say. :sad:

Jake. 04-04-2013 12:55 PM

You want me to sort her out Niall?

Niall 04-04-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5919195)
You want me to sort her out Niall?

yES.

Niall 04-04-2013 01:02 PM

Oh dear:

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Originally Posted by BBC News
North Korea has shifted a missile with "considerable range" to its east coast, South Korea's foreign minister says.

Kim Kwan-jin played down concerns that the missile could target the US mainland, and said the North's intentions were not yet clear.

Pyongyang earlier renewed threats of a nuclear strike against the US, though its missiles are not believed to be capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

The US is responding to North Korea by moving missile defence shields to Guam.

The Pentagon said the shield on its Pacific island territory would be ready within weeks, adding to warships already sent to the area.

The North has previously named Guam among a list of possible targets for attack that included Hawaii and the US mainland.

Japanese and South Korea reports had suggested the missile being moved by the North was a long-range one with a capability of hitting the US west coast.

However, experts believe the North's most powerful rocket, which it test-fired last December, has a range of 6,000km (3,700 miles) and can reach no further that Alaska.

Kim Kwan-jin told MPs in a parliamentary defence committee meeting that the missile had "considerable range".

"The missile does not seem to be aimed at the US mainland. It could be aimed at test firing or military drills," he said.

Analysts have interpreted Mr Kim's description as referring to the Musudan missile, estimated to have a range up to 4,000km. Guam would be within that range.

The North is believed to have its main military research centres in the east.

It has test-fired missiles from there before, and its three nuclear-weapons tests were carried out in the east.

But in recent weeks it has threatened nuclear strikes and attacks on specific targets in the US and South Korea.

It has announced a formal declaration of war on the South, and pledged to reopen a mothballed nuclear reactor in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions.

In its latest statement, attributed to a military spokesman, the North appeared to refer to ongoing military exercises between the US and South Korea in which the US has flown nuclear-capable bombers over the South.

The statement said the "ever-escalating US hostile policy towards the DPRK [North Korea] and its reckless nuclear threat will be smashed".

It promised to use "cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means of the DPRK" and said the "merciless operation of its revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified".

The US Department of Defense said on Wednesday it would deploy the ballistic Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (Thaad) to Guam in the coming weeks.

The Thaad system includes a truck-mounted launcher and interceptor missiles.

US officials recently also announced that the USS John McCain, a destroyer capable of intercepting missiles, had been positioned off the Korean peninsula.

Some analysts say Pyongyang's angry statements are of more concern than usual because it is unclear exactly what the North hopes to achieve.

As well as the rhetoric, Pyongyang has also taken action to deepen antipathy with the South.

It has shut down an emergency telephone line and stopped giving access to South Koreans who work at the joint industrial zone in Kaesong in the North.

The Kaesong complex is staffed mainly by North Koreans but funded and managed by South Korean firms.

Pyongyang blocked access for a second day on Thursday, and threatened to shut down the zone. [Source]


Roy Mars III 04-04-2013 01:05 PM

that @kim_tastiic chick is an idiot

Roy Mars III 04-04-2013 01:10 PM

Her point about sanctions couldn't be farther from the truth. North Korea's economy is **** because of decisions it made, and have nothing to do with the sanctions. The sanctions only target the elite in North Korea.

But I really couldn't be assed arguing with someone with Stop Imperialism as their twitter name

Jesus. 04-04-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 5919235)
Her point about sanctions couldn't be farther from the truth. North Korea's economy is **** because of decisions it made, and have nothing to do with the sanctions. The sanctions only target the elite in North Korea.

But I really couldn't be assed arguing with someone with Stop Imperialism as their twitter name

That's not entirely true, the sanctions only ever affect the lowest on the ladder. The elites aren't the ones starving.

Roy Mars III 04-04-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5919244)
That's not entirely true, the sanctions only ever affect the lowest on the ladder. The elites aren't the ones starving.

North Korea has isolated itself, and made mistake after mistake in terms of the economy. And they way too much money on military development which could go to figuring out a way to feed its own people.

Sure the sanctions will not help, but the you can't pretend like the sanctions are the main reason people are starving

Jesus. 04-04-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 5919258)
North Korea has isolated itself, and made mistake after mistake in terms of the economy. And they way too much money on military development which could go to figuring out a way to feed its own people.

Sure the sanctions will not help, but the you can't pretend like the sanctions are the main reason people are starving

I didn't mean that. Of course the people running the country have that responsibility, but their lives are also unaffected by those same sanctions.

I think KJI was spending about 40k each month on brandy at one stage. Sanctions placed on them by other countries never stop what they are designed to stop. I agree that you can't just let countries run by lunatics, do exactly what they want, but how about a system of food drops that go directly into neighbourhoods? How about encouraging the people to rise up against the government and military, how about leaflet drops?

Sanctions are no good when they give the people in the country being sanctioned, more reason to hate outsiders.

Jesus. 04-04-2013 01:25 PM

Besides, more free Korean women can only be a good thing. We can all agree on that. Amirite?

Iceman 04-04-2013 01:48 PM

After warning of a possible nuclear strike on the US mainland, American generals raise their threat assessment of N. Korea to CompleteCon 1.

Iceman 04-04-2013 01:49 PM

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TOKYO - The Japanese government said Thursday it is taking every possible measure to collect information and collaborate with other countries amid signs that North Korea is preparing to launch a missile.

"We understand every development (in North Korea) by collaborating with the United States and South Korea," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told reporters, as Pyongyang has reportedly moved what appears to be a mid-range missile to its east coast facing Japan. "It is extremely regrettable they repeat provocative acts."

The top government spokesman said Tokyo is braced for the "worst-case scenario," he said, adding China and Russia can play "significant roles" in defusing tensions surrounding North Korea, which announced this week it will restart a nuclear reactor that can produce weapons-grade material in defiance of international resolutions.

Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera separately said his ministry is closely communicating with the United States concerning the U.S. Defense Department's plan to deploy a land-based missile defense system to Guam in coming weeks to counter the threat of North Korean ballistic missiles.

"We will prepare to respond without any mistake" to a possible missile launch, Onodera said.

Chief of Joint Staff Gen. Shigeru Iwasaki told reporters that Onodera had instructed him to redouble efforts by the Self-Defense Forces to monitor the situation in the North by enhancing surveillance and stepping up the exchange of information with the United States.

North Korea has become increasingly belligerent, threatening to launch nuclear and missile strikes against South Korea and the United States, which it accuses of preparing to wage war by conducting joint military drills.

The isolated country has also barred South Korean workers from entering a jointly run factory park just over the heavily armed border in the North.
:/ getting a bit more than just threats now,,,

Tom4784 04-04-2013 03:57 PM

I still don't think it'll amount to anything, Kim Jong-un is just beating his chest. From what I understand of their economy I doubt they have the means to do anything significant.

If a war does happen I don't think it'll be a long one.

Iceman 04-04-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5919590)
I still don't think it'll amount to anything, Kim Jong-un is just beating his chest. From what I understand of their economy I doubt they have the means to do anything significant.

If a war does happen I don't think it'll be a long one.

I was reading a bit earlier that stated if there was a war, it would most likely be a 30 day one if even and it would be with the south rather than America...

lostalex 04-04-2013 04:54 PM

The truth is, this is China's creation. Their little communist buddies. There really needs to be more criticism for China in this thread. China are the ones giving the most AID to North Korea, propping up that fat little potato head.

arista 04-04-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5919682)
The truth is, this is China's creation. Their little communist buddies. There really needs to be more criticism for China in this thread. China are the ones giving the most AID to North Korea, propping up that fat little potato head.


Yes Alex (nice to see you back)
and China wants it kept as it is.

China is the King out there.

NK is alive because of food from China.

arista 04-04-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5919590)
I still don't think it'll amount to anything, Kim Jong-un is just beating his chest. From what I understand of their economy I doubt they have the means to do anything significant.

If a war does happen I don't think it'll be a long one.


You mean his Tits


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