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Niamh. 03-11-2017 02:59 PM
I don't watch it but would it be really weird to replace him with a different actor? I know that's not ideal but atleast they could finish the story?

James 03-11-2017 03:01 PM
Could they recast the part to finish it?

James 03-11-2017 03:02 PM
Oh, didn't read Niamh's post before posting.

Tom4784 03-11-2017 03:11 PM
I think the show can live without him if they want to write the character out, the whole thing about Francis wanting to join the rich people cult that's apparently more powerful than the government angle was a bit too ridiculous and Season 3 showed us that having Claire and Francis in conflict isn't that interesting.

Jack_ 03-11-2017 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9679664)
I bet they try to continue by killing (or imprisoning) him off-screen and have Claire as the protagonist and it'll be ****.
Yeah, unfortunately the majority of responses I've read online seem to be 'it's Claire's time to shine!!!!' whereas a few months ago it was 'what a terrible plot line' so I reckon it's going to go this way. The show is all about him, it needs to end.

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9679665)
I don't watch it but would it be really weird to replace him with a different actor? I know that's not ideal but atleast they could finish the story?
I'd take that over them writing the main character out completely, but idk, Spacey plays the role so well that I don't know if it'd work with anyone else.

Locke. 03-11-2017 03:16 PM
Definitely wouldn't work with anybody else. I HATE Frank but the show just wouldn't be on the same level without him as the leading man. I'd rather they just cancelled it completely rather than recast or write him out off screen.

user104658 03-11-2017 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9679674)
I think the show can live without him if they want to write the character out, the whole thing about Francis wanting to join the rich people cult that's apparently more powerful than the government angle was a bit too ridiculous and Season 3 showed us that having Claire and Francis in conflict isn't that interesting.
The whole point of the show is wrecked if they can't at least keep him on to write him out, though, e.g. if it's off screen... I mean, the name of the show is "House of Cards", that Frank has been building since S1. It's all completely pointless / waste of time and energy if we don't get to see the cards collapse... I mean, that's surely the entire point.

GiRTh 03-11-2017 08:01 PM
In The final cut Urquart was murdered on the orders of his wife Elizabeth. SO the manipulate wife is a theme in the show in both versions. If they do kill off Underwood please do it at the very end of the show I agree the final season should not become the Claire Underwood show.

Jack_ 03-11-2017 11:26 PM
Also, another serious problem with any of these ideas is that Spacey (along with Wright) are both executive producers. He'd surely have to agree with being written out and the show continuing without him, and then you'd have the contentious issue of someone who's become embroiled in accusations of sexual harassment en masse continuing to gain financially from the show. I don't see any way it can continue. Either recast Frank or release the scripts online...I don't know if there's any precedent for that but I'll be damned if I don't find out how this was meant to end.

tbh, I don't know what's worse, the inevitable 'Frank gets killed' ending anyway which I think is beyond lazy, him being killed off-screen, or the show not continuing at all :shrug:

Locke. 04-11-2017 12:13 PM
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Netflix is officially severing ties with Kevin Spacey amid mounting allegations of sexual harassment made against the House of Cards series star and executive producer.

Additionally, the streamer has scrapped a Gore Vidal biopic starring Spacey.

"Netflix will not be involved with any further production of House of Cards that includes Kevin Spacey. We will continue to work with MRC during this hiatus time to evaluate our path forward as it relates to the show," a representative for the streamer said in a statement Friday. "We have also decided we will not be moving forward with the release of the film Gore, which was in postproduction, starring and produced by Kevin Spacey."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...spacey-1054981

Jack_ 04-11-2017 01:34 PM
Gutted at how all this has panned out. Time to end it.

Jack_ 04-12-2017 06:07 PM
Robin will lead an eight episode season when production resumes in 2018

Tragic :bored:

Five seasons of Frank's arc being built up for the pay-off to be resolved off-screen and through a secondary character. What a waste.

Brother Leon 04-12-2017 06:17 PM
Will give it a pass then. Claire isn't close to being able to carry the show like Kevin Spacey did with Frank.

Jack_ 04-12-2017 06:23 PM
The worst thing about this is we will now never know the original intended ending, that bugs the hell out of me

Jack_ 05-09-2018 03:49 PM
Sigh. This may have been inevitable, but I still find it lazy



Dreading this season :bored:

Brother Leon 05-09-2018 04:47 PM
Mess.

They should have just ended it tbh.

Ramsay 05-09-2018 04:59 PM
Yup, should've ended it and wrapped it up in a book or something

Tom4784 05-09-2018 05:44 PM
I'm looking forward to it, Francis became way too much of a pantomine villain in the latter seasons and I think the writers lost their way with the character. Claire has been the more interesting character of the two for a quite a while.

ethanjames 05-09-2018 05:48 PM
this show died at s5 why are they making another season sigh

Marsh. 05-09-2018 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ethanjames (Post 10204039)
this show died at s5 why are they making another season sigh
Because production had already began on a final season and they didn't want to put all of the crew out of work for however long they were in production for.

user104658 06-09-2018 08:55 AM
It deeply amuses me that the name / premise of the show ended up being utterly meaningless :joker:. I mean, it's a great shame, but it's still quite funny.

Vicky. 19-09-2018 01:57 PM
Onto series 3 of this and I am seriously loving it. Its odd as nothing really happens, but it has me completely gripped :laugh: **** knows how they will carry it on without Frank though..I reckon they should have just left it

Jack_ 11-11-2018 01:23 AM
So I've just finished Season 6:

Spoiler:

Despite everything I'd said pre-season...this was actually good.















For the first five episodes.

There was waaaay too much going on, in too little time. I think it needed another two episodes to flesh some of these characters out. I was struggling to keep up with who was who, and who was working with who :shrug: the "flashbacks" to Claire's childhood were strange, not at all useful character development and ultimately futile.

I've also got REALLY tired of this show killing characters off when they become inconvenient to the Underwood's narrative. Three in one go is just lazy, lazy, lazy writing. Cathy Durant's demise, followed by her reappearance? A great twist! Then they kill her off for real? What was the point in that? Tom Hammerschmidt was the only rootable character in the whole show and should have been the one to have the stories published and Claire and Doug brought to justice. Janine was always the biggest side character of the lot of them...it just makes no sense :conf:

Don't even get me started on the ending. Minutes before, they had that bizarre scene with Bill Sheperd, concluding with him saying something like "the cards must fall". Great, I thought - the ending we've been waiting six seasons for is coming!

And then that. This show ended like THAT? Doug is the most vile character on HOC and I couldn't even enjoy his demise. How does Claire's arc end? Imprisonment? Another coverup? She wins? Why haven't we been told? Where was the public finding out about Frank's crimes? Scenes of Claire and Doug in prison or being brought to justice? When did the House of Cards fall?

I appreciate the writers didn't have much time after Spacey's departure...but this...this was just a ****show. WHERE was the ending? The payoff? It wouldn't even work as a season finale, let alone a series one.

The thing is, apparently (I've just had a quick google) the writers hadn't decided who would win between Frank and Claire in the original ending. That just tells me they never had a plan, and were churning out season after season for the sake of it. When Wilfred finished for example, the showrunner said they knew from episode 1 what the conclusion would be. This is just poor. I'm so disappointed


Ramsay 11-11-2018 09:18 AM
Worst ending ever but there wasn't much they could do


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