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Ammi 01-05-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5969032)
1 in 4 people suffer with depression at some point in their lives. It's an educated guess.

..but they don't commit suicide though..?..

Jesus. 01-05-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5969036)
Ok but she told me her exact name and that she was going to try and kill herself (she never actually said she suffered from depression btw) and also when i went back to her after she did kill herself she said the bit about the horses

That's something that can be left with you, and it could potentially come true up until the last day of your life.

Were you living i Ireland? Would it be such a stretch that a woman in your part of the world enjoyed horses?

Niamh. 01-05-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5969078)
That's something that can be left with you, and it could potentially come true up until the last day of your life.

Were you living i Ireland? Would it be such a stretch that a woman in your part of the world enjoyed horses?

Strange is it may sound we all don't own horses and ride around the place on them :laugh: She was my only friend who'd even sat on a horse at all I'd say, I was from the city, horses weren't a common thing for me or my friends But this one friend, who's name she got right had moved from the city and owned a horse and worked with horses so yeah imo it was a bit of a stretch

Jesus. 01-05-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5969037)
..but they don't commit suicide though..?..

It's left open. She isn't committing to anything by saying that. I'm sure there were probably at least 10 more predictions she made that Niamh has no memory of.

Roy Mars III 01-05-2013 04:28 PM

People should watch that Bull**** episode that Penn and Teller did on fortune tellers

Ammi 01-05-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5969088)
It's left open. She isn't committing to anything by saying that. I'm sure there were probably at least 10 more predictions she made that Niamh has no memory of.

..hmm. yeah but she didn't leavi it open by naming her though and Niamh would remember if she had given that name to her...mine was similar in that one of the things I was told was about a death and they were also named and also the month he died..?...there were other things as well but they're quite personal....

Jesus. 01-05-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5969087)
Strange is it may sound we all don't own horses and ride around the place on them :laugh: She was my only friend who'd even sat on a horse at all I'd say, I was from the city, horses weren't a common thing for me or my friends But this one friend, who's name she got right had moved from the city and owned a horse and worked with horses so yeah imo it was a bit of a stretch

That's shattered my illusion of Oirish people!!

I can't put myself in your experience, so I can't explain it fully, but I can guarantee you that your memory isn't being honest with you about the whole experience. I have no doubts she gave you the name, the condition, and the awful ending, but I also have no question in my mind that she would have made loads of other predictions too.

Of course you remember that one hit, because it was so specific, but if you see the future you should guess everything right.

King Gizzard 01-05-2013 04:39 PM

Load of crap

Always find it funny when people believe in these and horoscopes but then firmly don't believe in religion

Jesus. 01-05-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5969111)
..hmm. yeah but she didn't leavi it open by naming her though and Niamh would remember if she had given that name to her...mine was similar in that one of the things I was told was about a death and they were also named and also the month he died..?...there were other things as well but they're quite personal....

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

Lee. 01-05-2013 04:42 PM

Jesus, what about talking about people that have died, or the past in general as opposed to predicting the future. That can't be guesswork surely?

Jesus. 01-05-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 5969154)
Jesus, what about talking about people that have died, or the past in general as opposed to predicting the future. That can't be guesswork surely?

Give me an example.

Vicky. 01-05-2013 04:46 PM

No. Then again the only one I have ever seen..I went in for a laugh, and I got it. She told me all about my gorgeous 3 children, a newborn, a 3 year old and 5/6 year old. She told me about my tall handsome partner who I will be with forever. And about my 'best friend'...

She had clearly been watching me walking round the fair..as I was with gav, his kids, and their mother. Somehow these became my kids and my best friend. :D

King Gizzard 01-05-2013 04:47 PM

Plants in the audience

Ammi 01-05-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5969149)
You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

..hmmm, yeah it is all possible and I'm sure it's what often happens...but it wasn't like that for me, she spoke really quickly and was looking at her tarot cards in her hand the whole time..she didn't look up to make eye contact with me..in fact she did say at the beginning that she didn't need me to acknowledge anything..and I didn't...

Ammi 01-05-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Suze (Post 5968716)
I remember someone telling me once, that when people are queueing to go in to readings in halls or chatting whilst waiting, that scouts are sent amongst them to pick up on snippets of convos that may help in readings. I don't know how true that is or not, but it does sound feasible to me.

..this is the video I meant Suze...


GiRTh 01-05-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5969253)
..this is the video I meant Suze...


Good vid. :thumbs:

I love how everyone in that vid wants to believe. Thats how con men do so well.

Legend killer 01-05-2013 05:13 PM

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Ammi 01-05-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 5969281)
Good vid. :thumbs:

I love how everyone in that vid wants to believe. Thats how con men do so well.

..yeah, I do believe that but I still believe something about the one that I saw lol..it was just too spooky....

Suze 01-05-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5969253)
..this is the video I meant Suze...


Thanks Ammi. I'll watch it on my other computer later, as I can't get sound on this one.

EDIT: Clicked it anyway and see I don't need sound as it has subtitles.

Ammi 01-05-2013 05:25 PM

..yeah, it's all subtitled Suze..I think it's more about identity fraud and just showing how easy it is to get information from people....

Livia 01-05-2013 05:38 PM

I've seen a couple of Derren Brown's shows on telly and my brother saw one of his shows live. He's amazing... how he pulls out such personal and specific stuff about people is truly freaky. But he makes it very clear all the way through that it's entertainment, that he has no psychic powers at all and that he's extremely sceptical of those who do claim those powers.

Jesus. 01-05-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Suze (Post 5969320)
Thanks Ammi. I'll watch it on my other computer later, as I can't get sound on this one.

EDIT: Clicked it anyway and see I don't need sound as it has subtitles.

Be quicker to get the other computer than learn to read!

AnnieK 01-05-2013 05:44 PM

My grandad told me before he died if there was anyway to get through afterwards he would. I spent the first 6 months after he died expecting him sat on the end of my bed in the middle of the night. He never came. My mum can smell him from time to time though. I am very sceptical about mediums, the ones who put the shows on in halls particularly. My cousin goes regularly to see someone who doesn't charge and she has told her some pretty remarkable things that are true, things that happened when we were kids that she wouldn't have known but she says my nan comes through to her.

Jesus. 01-05-2013 05:55 PM

Any believers should watch this whole programme, but at worst from 36mins till the end of the show.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/d...ls/4od#2921957

Lee. 01-05-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5969160)
Give me an example.

Well first of all, why not try and tell me what my dads name was and how he died


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