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Cherie 12-07-2013 01:49 PM

I'm really curious how people who are saying Gina and Dexter are the selfish ones are justifying their outrage :joker: Dexter referred to others doing it when he accepted his wine tasting, so he didn't set the precedent, for all we know the main house was tempted first and it was edited to show the safe house being tempted first in the HLs. So take that haters.:devil:

Vanessa 12-07-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160060)
I'm really curious how people who are saying Gina and Dexter are the selfish ones are justifying their outrage :joker: Dexter referred to others doing it when he accepted his wine tasting, so he didn't set the precedent, for all we know the main house was tempted first and it was edited to show the safe house being tempted first in the HLs. So take that haters.:devil:

True, but housemates hate Gina and Dexter, so they'll get the blame. :bored:

Patricia4 12-07-2013 01:56 PM

Dexter and Gina are great I could live with them and have some fun.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:01 PM

Good for Hazel. Gina is greedy and selfish and everyone's got to tiptoe around her? I'm surprised she didn't accuse Hazel of being racist. That's what she did last time for attention...

Livia 12-07-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160060)
I'm really curious how people who are saying Gina and Dexter are the selfish ones are justifying their outrage :joker: Dexter referred to others doing it when he accepted his wine tasting, so he didn't set the precedent, for all we know the main house was tempted first and it was edited to show the safe house being tempted first in the HLs. So take that haters.:devil:

I'm curious how people can continue to justify their outrageously selfish, greedy behaviour. But, there you go...

lime 12-07-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160093)
Good for Hazel. Gina is greedy and selfish and everyone's got to tiptoe around her? I'm surprised she didn't accuse Hazel of being racist. That's what she did last time for attention...

Why are you surprised she didn't accuse Hazel of being racist?
The argument was about wine ,not skin colour.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160095)
I'm curious how people can continue to justify their outrageously selfish, greedy behaviour. But, there you go...

Its shows on the articles about the task that in this case the safe house trio actually spent the least amount from the shopping budget though so people calling Gina and Dexter selfish because of the treats they chose in this task are actually wrong, if anyone was selfish it was the rest of the housemates.

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160095)
I'm curious how people can continue to justify their outrageously selfish, greedy behaviour. But, there you go...

The main house and the safe house both accepted treats, so why is one being castigated and not the other? There you go.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160103)
The main house and the safe house both accepted treats, so why is one being castigated and not the other? There you go.

The main house isn't necking the secret house's champagne though, are they. Not everything is for Gina. Someone should tell her... There you go.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160102)
Its shows on the articles about the task that in this case the safe house trio actually spent the least amount from the shopping budget though so people calling Gina and Dexter selfish because of the treats they chose in this task are actually wrong, if anyone was selfish it was the rest of the housemates.

I'm pretty sure that the cost of the stuff on offer wasn't a factor. If Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it.

I'm not calling them selfish because of the treats they chose. I'm calling them selfish for drinking their own champagne and not sharing it, then taking the wine that the main house got, and drinking that too.

I know Gina and Dexter have this strainge air of entitlement... but it doesn't mean they actually are entitled to everything.

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160110)
The main house isn't necking the secret house's champagne though, are they. Not everything is for Gina. Someone should tell her... There you go.

But the others are not allowed in the safe house, or allowed to have anything from the safe house, whereas the safe house inmates can access all parts of the main house, so I don't see the big problem it, it was a glass of wine.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:18 PM

Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160117)
Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

kefln 12-07-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160113)
I'm pretty sure that the cost of the stuff on offer wasn't a factor. If Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it.

I'm not calling them selfish because of the treats they chose. I'm calling them selfish for drinking their own champagne and not sharing it, then taking the wine that the main house got, and drinking that too.

I know Gina and Dexter have this strainge air of entitlement... but it doesn't mean they actually are entitled to everything.

So you are blaming Dex for something he didnt do...ie spending 100 on wine tasting.
And you are blaming the safe house for not sharing, even though they arent allowed...

Solid argument there.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160121)
And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

Ah no arguing just sharing our opinions :love:

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160117)
Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

That is a point, they must have had quite a bit of alcohol delivered for that amount. They will all suffer in the long run as their shopping budget is depleted, except for those in the safe house....(if they stay there). Personally I think they should have declined the treats, but they are not that kind of crowd.

Vicky. 12-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160132)
That is a point, they must have had quite a bit of alcohol delivered for that amount. They will all suffer in the long run as their shopping budget is depleted, except for those in the safe house....(if they stay there). Personally I think they should have declined the treats, but they are not that kind of crowd.

I dont think they will be in there after tonight

Gina seems to have it in her head that shes there til she leaves..I really doubt it. Wishful thinking more like :laugh:

Livia 12-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160129)
So you are blaming Dex for something he didnt do...ie spending 100 on wine tasting.
And you are blaming the safe house for not sharing, even though they arent allowed...

Solid argument there.

What I actually said was that "if Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it".

I don't recall hearing them being told they couldn't share the champagne. But even so, they felt entitled to help themselves to the main house's booze. Because they're greedy, selfish and have a sense of entitlement.

So yes, quite a solid argument, I feel. Thanks.

kefln 12-07-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160121)
And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

Vanessa 12-07-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

Good point and i don't blame them at all. :thumbs:

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

I agree with that, plus they know without a shadow of a doubt they will be up again next week so why even bother trying to please these people.

Indy 12-07-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160149)
I agree with that, plus they know without a shadow of a doubt they will be up again next week so why even bother trying to please these people.

And, nobody bothered to tell them they had "all agreed (actually, about 4 of them did) that nobody from the SH could have any alcohol until after they poured. Perhaps if someone had actually told them prior to Jackie losing her ****, it never would've happened. Apparently not being psychic must now be added to the list of why everything is Dexter and Gina's fault. And still ignoring that Charlie, who DID have champagne, and still had her champagne flute, was not yelled at, ONLY D&G were told they couldn't have any.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

And after being spied on while the two of them lived in luxury, the rest of the house may be a little resentful. I mean, they didn't exactly have the greatest team spirit before, did they!?

kefln 12-07-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160138)
What I actually said was that "if Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it".

I don't recall hearing them being told they couldn't share the champagne. But even so, they felt entitled to help themselves to the main house's booze. Because they're greedy, selfish and have a sense of entitlement.

So yes, quite a solid argument, I feel. Thanks.

"Dont recall", "Im sure", "if", "they felt entitled"

All the above are personal opinion statements, which you are entitled to make, but none are fact.

The facts are that this weeks challenge is all about self control and austerity. None of the HMs have realised this. They are all eating into their weekly budget for short term gain.

Its a brilliant task because it has already shown off the short sighted, selfish, nature of the HMs, along with the ever widening gap in the house itself.

For example, the "group" were all sitting around b*tching about Dex and the champagne. Giving out about how selfish he was. But the result was a "we'll show them response". They jumped at the chance to spend more money and there was a resulting argument.

Had both sides said no, there would have been no arguments and they would have more cash. But they all have a "us and them" mentality.

Take the coment from one of the twins, the wrong ones went into the safe house. In realty the "best" ones went in. As Dex and Gina are the most isolated, there is a natural divide. This task is only compounding that divide. Leading to a far more interesting programme for the viewers.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160199)
"Dont recall", "Im sure", "if", "they felt entitled"

All the above are personal opinion statements, which you are entitled to make, but none are fact.

The facts are that this weeks challenge is all about self control and austerity. None of the HMs have realised this. They are all eating into their weekly budget for short term gain.

Its a brilliant task because it has already shown off the short sighted, selfish, nature of the HMs, along with the ever widening gap in the house itself.

For example, the "group" were all sitting around b*tching about Dex and the champagne. Giving out about how selfish he was. But the result was a "we'll show them response". They jumped at the chance to spend more money and there was a resulting argument.

Had both sides said no, there would have been no arguments and they would have more cash. But they all have a "us and them" mentality.

Take the coment from one of the twins, the wrong ones went into the safe house. In realty the "best" ones went in. As Dex and Gina are the most isolated, there is a natural divide. This task is only compounding that divide. Leading to a far more interesting programme for the viewers.

Yeah, this is a Big Brother discussion. It's all about personal opinions and an individual's interpretation of the facts. Mine differ wildly from yours to the extent I could believe you're watching quite a different programme.

We're going to have to agree to differ on this one.


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