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anne666 15-07-2013 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6170783)
This thread contains some of the most brainless comments I've seen for... well, ever.
I agree OMG !!!

Im_Juz_ChiLLin 15-07-2013 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170820)
Ok sensible hat on! ;)

None of us have actually seen the "strangling" incident and are making assumptions.

If Hazel and Daley were both laughing and joking as it happened, would that make a difference? What if BB panicked?

The fact that Hazel felt Daley had done nothing wrong must also be taken into account otherwise you are disrespecting her view.
if they found it kinky then that would be really strange... let's watch thonights video to see what really happened.... :shocked:

anne666 15-07-2013 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170834)
You have not seen the incident in context and are making assumptions.
AND you are stupid if you think that any situation warrants violence.

Beso 15-07-2013 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170834)
You have not seen the incident in context and are making assumptions.
As is the opposite go and jump on it.

anne666 15-07-2013 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170833)
so why did denise get away with it last year?
So to wrongs do make a right then.

CaudleHalbard 15-07-2013 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by anne666 (Post 6170846)
AND you are stupid if you think that any situation warrants violence.
Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!

anne666 15-07-2013 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170852)
Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!
Sorry not worth bothering OMG

CaudleHalbard 15-07-2013 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anne666 (Post 6170859)
Sorry not worth bothering OMG
Probably not - if you are going to take a blinkered view! ;)

Benjamin 15-07-2013 07:15 PM
He's a bit of a lunatic for this and not for a second do I condone it, but she has played countless mind games with him many times, even when he has asked her to leave him alone. She is bad in another sense, let's not let her off the hook entirely.

the truth 15-07-2013 07:18 PM
agreed just because he is awful doesn't make her good by comparison ....shes been despicable too, in a lesser way than him, but still despicable. she played him like a violin though. what a clown.

Marsh. 15-07-2013 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170779)
Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle
Wow, a really balanced post. I expected you to pile all blame on Hazel.

But, yes, whilst I don't quite agree with "evil inside" she is not innocent. I don't think anyone would say she is. She has her own questionable behaviour, but Daley needs to take responsibility for his own actions.

I don't agree with all the Hazel led him on and did this and did that, well maybe she did but Daley has his own mind and should accept responsibility for his own behaviour.

In the end, his actions warranted removal and no matter what anyone says Hazel's didn't.

Jake. 15-07-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6170895)
Wow, a really balanced post. I expected you to pile all blame on Hazel.

But, yes, whilst I don't quite agree with "evil inside" she is not innocent. I don't think anyone would say she is. She has her own questionable behaviour, but Daley needs to take responsibility for his own actions.

I don't agree with all the Hazel led him on and did this and did that, well maybe she did but Daley has his own mind and should accept responsibility for his own behaviour.

In the end, his actions warranted removal and no matter what anyone says Hazel's didn't.
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Marsh. 15-07-2013 07:21 PM
Yeah, whilst Hazel has done wrong, it bugs me how Daley's actions are explained as being mostly Hazel's fault but her actions aren't Daley's fault. They're both responsible. Just to lesser degrees.

Benjamin 15-07-2013 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170779)
Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle
Very well put indeed!

Livia 15-07-2013 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170852)
Who said it was violence?

Making assumptions again - this is what is brainless about some of the comments!
Daley struck her. That is assault.

anne666 15-07-2013 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6170910)
Daley struck her. That is assault.
Why can some people not grasp that very simple fact?? Who are they defending here? As well as his threatening behaviour !

CaudleHalbard 15-07-2013 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6170910)
Daley struck her. That is assault.
I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.

Im_Juz_ChiLLin 15-07-2013 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170936)
I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.
This ^^^^ :spin:

anne666 15-07-2013 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170779)
Hmmmm I think this has probably gone too serious now to help hazel.....daley didn't have the temperament for such a show and such scrutiny....hes clearly anasty piece of work and will probably end up in prison. hazel meanwhile is evil inside. she knew exactly what she was doing from day 1. stealing boyfriends, encouraging sex and so on with a person who is taken for on live tv takes some amazing lack of morals.
I wont accept this nonsense that the felame housemate gets blamed more than the male its rubbish. daleys life is destroyed now. totally. he will lose both relationships, probably face arrest and his reputation is ruined forever. he will have a police record too so he will be unemployable

hazel is a different kettle of fish. shes not guilty of any crime, shes not been aggressive or violent at all. but shes been morally bankrupt, callous and evil inside

her punishment should simply to be evicted asap back to her slapper lifestyle
This,will she have learned anything from it, I hope so.

Marsh. 15-07-2013 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170936)
My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.
Are you watching the same TV show the rest of the forum are?

Kicking Hazel and Daley out and claiming moral high ground (when what's actually happened between them is questionable) would be highly hypocritical.

If this is where Big Brother draws the line then about 6 years worth of the show would never have made it to air. The show and its producers love controversy, and this current one is tame compared to previous series.

Livia 15-07-2013 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6170936)
I do think people (mainly the female members here) are conveniently disregarding, and indeed disrespecting, Hazel's view of the entire matter which is that:

Daley did nothing wrong!

Hazel is a strong character and to try and put her in the role of meek abused woman is very demeaning to her.

My own view is that both Daley and Hazel should have been kicked out for bringing BB into disrepute. No more, no less.
It's a black and white issue: if you strike someone, you are assaulting them. They cannot goad you or provoke you into hitting them. He struck her. That isn't common assault, it's assault. There is no grey area. I am not "conveniently disregarding" anything, I'm telling you the legal interpretation of what happened.

the truth 15-07-2013 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6170965)
It's a black and white issue: if you strike someone, you are assaulting them. They cannot goad you or provoke you into hitting them. He struck her. That isn't common assault, it's assault. There is no grey area. I am not "conveniently disregarding" anything, I'm telling you the legal interpretation of what happened.
yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?

Jake. 15-07-2013 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170988)
yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?
Why would Livia know lol?

Livia 15-07-2013 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6170988)
yes and denise welch struck mike madsen several times in the face....so why wasn't she even warned?
Why indeed.

I think I said at the time I thought she should have been thrown out.

Livia 15-07-2013 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 6170991)
Why would Livia know lol?
My crystal ball is a little cloudy tonight, unfortunately LOL...


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