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Im_Juz_ChiLLin 27-07-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6217175)
Calllum is obsessed with Dexter. Everything is Dexter's fault.

^^^ This

Jemal 27-07-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6217232)
Its not quite right to lie and then to swear on your mother's life that you're not lying! Last one to swear on someone's life was Daley.

Has it come to your mind that he may not have HEARD THE FLIPPING BOOS?

Indy 27-07-2013 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadouken (Post 6217241)
Has it come to your mind that he may not have HEARD THE FLIPPING BOOS?

Then he should say he didn't hear them, not that Dexter invented them and told everyone else to make Sam feel bad. There is no reason for people to lie about that, so by suggesting they are, he is basically telling Sam that those people don't like him.

Jemal 27-07-2013 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 6217245)
Then he should say he didn't hear them, not that Dexter invented them and told everyone else to make Sam feel bad. There is no reason for people to lie about that, so by suggesting they are, he is basically telling Sam that those people don't like him.

What the hell are you on about.
Firstly He said dexter put negative thoughts in Charlie's mind about Charlie getting more boos than cheers. Which callum disagreed with, and said although she got boos, she should also focus on the positive.
Now Sam is a different matter. First of all callum and jack and joe said they only heard a women say Get Sam out! But then callum said there was a 3-4 second of no reaction then Sam got cheers. Whether he mis-interpreated those boos sam really got for no reactions is likely, because it just doesn't make sense. There's a massive over reaction here. People in the house always think they hear things and they actually don't, dexter thought last week he got a "get dexter out" chant when there was zilch of that. I mean the callum hate is real strong that its gotten to the point were if he drinks a cup of water, he gets slated. And ill always back him to the end cause i dont get the hate lol.

Indy 27-07-2013 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadouken (Post 6217251)
What the hell are you on about.
Firstly He said dexter put negative thoughts in Charlie's mind about Charlie getting more boos than cheers. Which callum disagreed with, and said although she got boos, she should also focus on the positive.
Now Sam is a different matter. First of all callum and jack and joe said they only heard a women say Get Sam out! But then callum said there was a 3-4 second of no reaction then Sam got cheers. Whether he mis-interpreated those boos sam really got for no reactions is likely, because it just doesn't make sense. There's a massive over reaction here. People in the house always think they hear things and they actually don't, dexter thought last week he got a "get dexter out" chant when there was zilch of that. I mean the callum hate is real strong that its gotten to the point were if he drinks a cup of water, he gets slated. And ill always back him to the end cause i dont get the hate lol.

It's your choice to back someone when they lie. That doesn't mean everyone who doesn't do the same is inventing things they watched live in front of them. He was blaming Dexter for Charlie telling Sam there were boos. It's why Charlie got Sophie to back her up, not Dexter.

Donovan. 27-07-2013 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6216978)
oh well, atleast he doesn't nominate his friends.

This, tbh. The double standards are ridiculous. I was okay with Dexter's Gina nomination being excused as gameplay, because they don't owe eachother anything, nobody in that house does. I'm even okay with Callum gettin flack for this, but the "NOT A REAL FRIEND!!!" outcry is so forced and is only happening, because it's Callum.

Indy 27-07-2013 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan81996 (Post 6217266)
This, tbh. The double standards are ridiculous. I was okay with Dexter's Gina nomination being excused as gameplay, because they don't owe eachother anything, nobody in that house does. I'm even okay with Callum gettin flack for this, but the "NOT A REAL FRIEND!!!" outcry is so forced and is only happening, because it's Callum.

And when he nominated his friend Dexter face to face?

Donovan. 27-07-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 6217270)
And when he nominated his friend Dexter face to face?

I'm not claiming that he's a good friend, I don't care either way, but it's silly to bring that nomination up without bringing up Dexter's nomination of Gina. Why persecute somebody for doing something and praise somebody else for the same thing.

Im_Juz_ChiLLin 27-07-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 6217245)
Then he should say he didn't hear them, not that Dexter invented them and told everyone else to make Sam feel bad. There is no reason for people to lie about that, so by suggesting they are, he is basically telling Sam that those people don't like him.

Brilliant post 100 % Agree Creepy Callum was back tracking on live Feed when everyone outed his lie ..... :cat:

Im_Juz_ChiLLin 27-07-2013 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan81996 (Post 6217286)
I'm not claiming that he's a good friend, I don't care either way, but it's silly to bring that nomination up without bringing up Dexter's nomination of Gina. Why persecute somebody for doing something and praise somebody else for the same thing.

This is not about nominations, it was Sam asking Callum for his honest opinion. Even then he said he heard no boos and to trust him that Dexter was the one manipulating Charlie into thinking there was Boo's for Sam. He had no proof or evidence Dexter said anything of the sort yet bought that point in just to make Sam think it's all Dexter's fault which it clearly wasn't... his obsession over Dexter has to stop and it is good BB called Creepy Callum into the diary room before he went on about it all night long.... :nono:

Verbal 27-07-2013 03:28 AM

sooo...yea...lovely weather we've been having

Donovan. 27-07-2013 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin (Post 6217416)
This is not about nominations, it was Sam asking Callum for his honest opinion. Even then he said he heard no boos and to trust him that Dexter was the one manipulating Charlie into thinking there was Boo's for Sam. He had no proof or evidence Dexter said anything of the sort yet bought that point in just to make Sam think it's all Dexter's fault which it clearly wasn't... his obsession over Dexter has to stop and it is good BB called Creepy Callum into the diary room before he went on about it all night long.... :nono:

Fair enough, but I was using that as an example. Dexter hasn't been the truest friend either and there is little to no reaction, and there shouldn't be. This Callum hate though, has been ever the top IMO. And when there's finally a solid reason for people to be mad at him, it's trivialized to "not being a true friend" instead of what it should be.

I get that he might be taking advantage of Sam's disability(or as a friend of mine would say, his "different ability") but I also understand that he might just be trying to protect Sam, and that it's a tough position to tell your friend that they might not be so well-liked.

vortex 27-07-2013 06:42 AM

That comment had a double intention and giving Sam security wasn't even the main one, he wants Sam to hate on Dexter aswell, blaming Dexter out of the blue was ridiculous, Charlie told him what she heard, Dexter had nothing to do with it.

joeysteele 27-07-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan81996 (Post 6217286)
I'm not claiming that he's a good friend, I don't care either way, but it's silly to bring that nomination up without bringing up Dexter's nomination of Gina. Why persecute somebody for doing something and praise somebody else for the same thing.

I really like Dexter but no one really dare say anyhing negative as to him for being jumped on. If Callum has said something against Dexter then he will be the new hate figure just as Dan was, and sadly it is Dexter that gets protected on here and very few others.
I was a Dan fan and got pulled up for being too defensive, Dexter can be mentioned on every thread with the same comments and not a word said.

You are spot on,as to the Dexter/Gina nomination but as I say Dexter can do little wrong on here.

Callum looks out for Sam and Sam trusts him, a good friend has 3 choices to make when someone is upset, do they fill them in with the whole truth or do they try to get them over the upset period first then choosing a better time to say all that may have actually been the case.

The boos Sam got were small and there was a mixture of cheers with them too, they all got a mixed reaction and so I can give Callum some credit for trying to spare Sam's feelings further by not jumping in and saying you got boos.

Being a good friend often means picking your moments to do the right thing and sometimes when someone is upset or hurt,you have to sidestep a little.

fingers 27-07-2013 09:17 AM

Sam doesn't need protecting, in fact he is probably the single person in there who can stand up for, and defend, himself.

smeagol 27-07-2013 09:26 AM

creepy up to his tricks again. , i said ages ago he is using sam for his own ends. and talks down to him like a little kid. he is a bit deaf he isn't dumb

Jemal 27-07-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6217585)
I really like Dexter but no one really dare say anyhing negative as to him for being jumped on. If Callum has said something against Dexter then he will be the new hate figure just as Dan was, and sadly it is Dexter that gets protected on here and very few others.
I was a Dan fan and got pulled up for being too defensive, Dexter can be mentioned on every thread with the same comments and not a word said.

You are spot on,as to the Dexter/Gina nomination but as I say Dexter can do little wrong on here.

Callum looks out for Sam and Sam trusts him, a good friend has 3 choices to make when someone is upset, do they fill them in with the whole truth or do they try to get them over the upset period first then choosing a better time to say all that may have actually been the case.

The boos Sam got were small and there was a mixture of cheers with them too, they all got a mixed reaction and so I can give Callum some credit for trying to spare Sam's feelings further by not jumping in and saying you got boos.

Being a good friend often means picking your moments to do the right thing and sometimes when someone is upset or hurt,you have to sidestep a little.

:worship:

Kris 27-07-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6217066)
Callum heading to be the new hate figure now.
I cannot say if Callum's actions with Sam are all good but there were a few boos for Sam as there were all of them.
Sophie far less.

Sam doesn't understand this twist, he is upset, Callum may have been unwise to say there were no boos or a few boos but I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to spare his feelings.
Sam isn't a child but he is a bit more vulnerable in there than the others, the poor lad had no idea what was going on when Emma was explaining the twist.

I still think Callum is a friend to Sam, he is getting a pretty rough ride in there himself and he owes Dexter nothing for the way Dexter attempts to belittle him at every opportunity.

This...except for saying Callum is the NEW hate figure as its nothing new. Callum can't say hello to anyone without being called everything from a pig to a dog. The amount of flack he caught yesterday just for doing the washing up was rediculas.

Maybe in the confusion of the night he really didn't think he heard boos for Sam or maybe he was trying to protect a freind but just what is it he could really gain from it otherwise.

This is just another case of the firing squad looking for a reason to pull the trigger.

Jemal 27-07-2013 10:05 AM

Exactly. Callums the new hate figure, and tbh i kinda like it.

fingers 27-07-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx (Post 6217158)
Sam annoyed me went he kept going on and on and on about 'representing' people.

(I'm guessing he meant deaf people because he started going on about past housemates with disabilities and where they came in the competition)

Callum isn't the only one who didn't hear boos for Sam, one of the twins also didn't.

He has a well thought out strategy for winning and it involved studying how all the other people with disabilities fared, he knows which of them won and which of them came second and he thinks he knows how he should play this. It involves putting across the idea that he's doing this for the "people he represents" i.e. some deaf charity in Wales. So just keep a low profile while the "big" players are gunned down one by one. His only real fear is that Gina will pip him to the post. and unfortunately he's probably right!

Im_Juz_ChiLLin 27-07-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6217585)
I really like Dexter but no one really dare say anyhing negative as to him for being jumped on. If Callum has said something against Dexter then he will be the new hate figure just as Dan was, and sadly it is Dexter that gets protected on here and very few others.
I was a Dan fan and got pulled up for being too defensive, Dexter can be mentioned on every thread with the same comments and not a word said.

You are spot on,as to the Dexter/Gina nomination but as I say Dexter can do little wrong on here.

Callum looks out for Sam and Sam trusts him, a good friend has 3 choices to make when someone is upset, do they fill them in with the whole truth or do they try to get them over the upset period first then choosing a better time to say all that may have actually been the case.

The boos Sam got were small and there was a mixture of cheers with them too, they all got a mixed reaction and so I can give Callum some credit for trying to spare Sam's feelings further by not jumping in and saying you got boos.

Being a good friend often means picking your moments to do the right thing and sometimes when someone is upset or hurt,you have to sidestep a little.

Being a good friend means telling the truth not lieing and making it a blame game about Dexter being the bad influence when he was the one lieing in the first place. When a friend asks you for the truth you don't sugar coat it with lies, Creepy Callum is a bad friend !!! :nono:

CaudleHalbard 27-07-2013 01:19 PM

It is not sort of deep meaningful friendship. They are house friends and probably know very little of each other in reality.

It does not surprise me Callum was over-protective.

caffacaf 27-07-2013 02:30 PM

Hmm I didn't really hear boos for Sam tbh, I thought there was just a bit of overlap between some boos Dan got, then Emma said Sam's name, the boos continued for a second but then switched to cheers. Maybe Callum thought this too?

Either way I genuinely don't think he is a bad (fake nice) person people are making him out to be. Even if he said no boos, to protect Sam, so what? it might not be what everyone thinks is right but it doesn't make him bad. He may just not have wanted Sam to worry all week on something not that important, since he got mostly cheers.
He either did what he thought was right to him or didn't hear any genuinely.

Also I don't think it can be compared to letting your friend go outside in an ugly dress/clothes totally different. Sam not knowing doesn't make a fool of him at all.

CaudleHalbard 27-07-2013 02:32 PM

There were "Get Sam Out" chants as well as boos. I doubt anyone has told Sam about those!

fingers 27-07-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6218533)
There were "Get Sam Out" chants as well as boos. I doubt anyone has told Sam about those!

They did actually, several of them ,but they all claimed it was a lone woman's voice!


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