Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6617248)

..I haven't heard him talk about himself and his past in the house..?...and for me there's nothing to change my opinion of Jim either from anything I have seen in the house..we all have preconceived opinions of celebrities that we know something about and that only changes if there is something to change it...

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6617270)

...I think that he often says things which he knows will stir up other people and then he walks away from it..just kind of 'throws comments out there..'...I also don't like his humour because it's mostly personnel about people so it's just to me an insult really but disguised as a joke...I'm not saying that other people haven't been insulting as well, but I probably don't like them much either..:laugh:...we just all see things from different perspectives, I think...

Originally Posted by Haylei (Post 6617864)

Ammi, you are just making this thread for me. :love: You too, Jet.

I don't really understand why we can't judge the HMs on their past? Like Ammi said they're all "celebrities" and I think that the whole point of CBB is that they're people that you have heard of and have opinions on and it gives them a chance to change peoples minds, unlike normal BB. I may be wrong though. I'm fairly new to BB UK.

I watched Jim on Hell's Kitchen and hated him. I learned about his personal life and I hated him more. I don't know if it's just because I'm fairly young, but I can't just put him being a horrible, disgusting person to the side so I can judge him only for how he is on this show. Honestly, I don't think he should have even been allowed on this.

I also don't really get how you can compare Jasmine punching LiLo and Sam slapping her boyfriend and some girl he was with or whatever to what sounds like Jim beating his wife on multiple occurrences.

Sorry, I don't know if it's just because I'm overly passionate in hating the things that Jim has done but I don't really understand how people can just overlook all of that and give him a clean slate.

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6617913)

Like Ammi said, he's sarcastic and condescending to get people react, but then he scurries away when people react to him belittling them and he only belittles them more.

Also, his views on general matters are just gross, like how nuclear bombs keep the peace and how he's a chauvinist pig who doesn't understand women by admission. He expresses his awful views the quietest, least controversial way and while he's not enacting anything in particular, it's a constant reminder that this is Jim Davidson we're dealing with and he's a particularly awful person. If you want any comparison, look at Danielle Lloyd who said extremely horrific things about Shilpa but was always the kindest to her.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6617248)

..I haven't heard him talk about himself and his past in the house..?...and for me there's nothing to change my opinion of Jim either from anything I have seen in the house..we all have preconceived opinions of celebrities that we know something about and that only changes if there is something to change it...

Originally Posted by jegmeister (Post 6617921)

Spot on. I'm heartily sick of the bum-licking of Jim that is going on in this Forum and the slagging off of Luisa because she has the cheek to stand up to the sexist, racist, homophobic loud-mouthed git.

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6617927)

Exactly. Got to love the blindness of some.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 6619173)

YOU NEED TO WATCH CLOSER THEN BECAUSE AS PART OF THE VERY FIRST TASK HE ADMITTED HIS COCAINE ABUSE.:nono:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6619590)

..oh I did see that, I was referring to his past in relation to how he feels it was for his wife with what he did to her and his thoughts about it now, because for me that's an important thing about seeing whether he seems to have changed....