Isn't everything in the end when it comes to liking or disliking a person?

Agreed. It's talentless.

OK so you could have two people who are essentially the same but you'll like one and dislike the other?

When you put it like that...

Luisa is nothing like Dappy

What do you mean essentially the same? I've never met two people who are exactly alike before and Luisa and Dappy are certainly not essentially the same

Do you really not know what I mean?

You said Dappy was arrogant but have never mentioned that trait in Luisa.

You said that if two people are "essentially the same" but I don't believe any two people are "essentially the same" so I can't really give you the answer you're looking for. Saying that both Dappy and Luisa share a character trait doesn't make them "essentially the same"

So you did know what I meant. How mischievous of you.

Do you see the similarities between Dappy and Luisa or not? If so then do you not think its odd that you like one but dislike the other and when giving an example of why you mention a trait that is definitely shared by both. Thats what I find odd and you dont seem to be able to expand other than to say its a personal preference.

My understanding of what you meant didn't seem very plausible in relation to what you were asking which is why I asked you to clarify it for me, I wasn't attempting to be "mischievous".

I don't see very many similarities between Luisa and Dappy, no. They're very different people imo.

All the more interesting that when you mention a Dappy negative trait you mention something could have applied to Luisa.

I dont think they are that different. They come from different worlds but I see arrogance and self delusion in both. If anything Luisa bravado is even more than Dappy's cuz he actually chilled out and grew in the house where as she went out exactly the same as when she walked in

Why wouldn't she? She was there for 3 weeks, i don't know about you but when I go on holiday I come back the same person as I was when I went :joker:

Really?


the oscars grammy's brit awards and golden globes beg to differ

Both loud,deluded,sexual pests who also happen to think their gender is the greater one. Throw in they are both as arrogant and cringey as each other then I would say they are incredibly similar in many ways. A lot of the negative things about Dappy could also apply to Luisa and vice Versa as Girth has already touched on.

Another very funny comment. Strange that its not really relevant to the topic but hey good one. :joker:

You seem to be driving the thread more and more off topic so I'll go back to the original question. Have you changed your view of Dappy. And I'll add - if not why not? I'll sum up so far. You say no but you mention traits in him that are similar to someone you like and we go back to whatever round of replies we were at before you went off at tangents. :idc:

:joker:

I thought he was a twat before he went in and I still think he's a twat.

He was a good hm though.

How is it not relevant to the topic? It was infact a direct response to something you posted, I was trying to put a bit of a humorous spin on it to lighten the mood a bit because you seem to be taking my dislike of Dappy personally. I don't believe that celebrities need to grow and change in the house after 3 weeks, why would they?

Also, why is it me driving the thread offtopic, when i'm simply responding to your posts?

You responded to one part of a post in which I was making a point and you know full well thats what I was doing. The fact that Luisa hasn't grown is not the premise of the point I was making. The premise is that she is more similar to Dappy than you think and her Bravado, that never changed cuz she didnt change reinforced that - - that was the point I was making -.

Thats how you are taking the thread off topic. IF you dont want to answer the question outright and tell us why you like one but no the other when they are actually quite similar, then you should state as such.

My opinion han't changed. I still think he is a bit creepy and whilst he might have changed into Costa it won't be long before he is back to being the gansta boy with attitude - not that there is anything wrong with that, he is just not my type of person. I'm so pleased he didn't win (and I'm sure he thought he actually was going to).

I had no idea what he was like before BB but after he said he thought it was acceptable for men to sleep with 5 women in one night but if a woman does the same she's a slag I lost respect for him and no matter what he said or did afterwards would not make me ever like him.

:laugh: Yeah what was all that about? Really odd. Poor Jim. If it were me, I would have given him a slap for that. I know what you're saying, though. Cautious is the word that comes to mind with the way Dappy governed himself in the house.

My opinion of Dappy? I didn't have one until he went in the house. He sorta reminds me of some people I know who talk some dumb sh!t, you just don't want to be round them people too long.

I don't think he's a bad guy though. Has to be said

I believe the topic of this thread is has your opinion of Dappy changed (which I have already answered btw) so you're happy enough to change the topic to why do I like Luisa but not Dappy but I'm the one taking the thread off topic?

I wanted you to expand but you've been evasive or made statements that dont make sense hence Why I'm asking for follow up, your reply was to one part of a whole post where you deliberately misunderstood the question.

EDIt: You're going off topic again.

Ugh girth, I can't carry on this conversation if everytime I post you're going to tell me I'm going off topic. I don't even get the point of this argument, I mean what's your end game here?, I don't like Dappy, I didn't really know anything about him before he went in other than he was was a bit annoying, that was confirmed for when he went into the house, Luisa I initially found her irritating but she grew on me (possibly after jasmine left) I can't say anymore other than, i dislike Dappy and nothing you say to me is going to make me like him and i don't understand why it's so important to you to understand why i don't like him :laugh: