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Verbal 09-07-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030960)
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“Name calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracized from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying,” asserted Big Brother.

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb15/news/061...#ixzz36z8GBlvz

See! You can do it. Well done!

"types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying"


Is not bullying.

You can't go to Court and be convicted because someone perceives you to be a mass murderer.

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:28 PM

:facepalm: You asked for a clip of her receiving a warning where "the word bullying was mentioned".

Nobody said you had to agree it was bullying. It's always going to be a matter of opinion.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031002)
See! You can do it. Well done!

"types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying"


Is not bullying.

You can't go to Court and be convicted because someone perceives you to be a mass murderer.

Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort? :think:

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7031005)
:facepalm: You asked for a clip of her receiving a warning where "the word bullying was mentioned".

Nobody said you had to agree it was bullying. It's always going to be a matter of opinion.

I said that she has not been warned for being a bully. She hasn't.

Just that some people might perceive her as one.

Doesn't make her a bully.

Shaun 09-07-2014 03:32 PM

Her problem is that she hides whatever point she may have in a haystack of shouting, insults and "****ing _____ ****ing _____ YOU ****ING ________"s.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031016)
Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort? :think:

Because people get butthurt and ring Ofcom, which gets them in trouble. Then they have to be seen as taking action.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031023)
Because people get butthurt and ring Ofcom, which gets them in trouble. Then they have to be seen as taking action.

I disagree, if they were doing what the people wanted they would have kicked her out or atleast revoked her pass by now. Anyway, we're going round in circles here, you don't think she's a vile bully, I do. The End.

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031019)
I said that she has not been warned for being a bully. She hasn't.

Just that some people might perceive her as one.

Doesn't make her a bully.

You asked for a warning where the "word bullying was mentioned" you got it.

Nobody said it would prove conclusively and make you change your mind.

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:35 PM

"You cheeky ****ing bastard" does make me howl though. :laugh:

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7031032)
You asked for a warning where the "word bullying was mentioned" you got it.

Nobody said it would prove conclusively and make you change your mind.

What I meant was where she was warned for being a bully. I guess it didn't translate from my head in that way.

Jack_ 09-07-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031016)
Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort? :think:

Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031028)
I disagree, if they were doing what the people wanted they would have kicked her out or atleast revoked her pass by now. Anyway, we're going round in circles here, you don't think she's a vile bully, I do. The End.

That is not true at all, not everyone wants her out. So you do not speak on behalf of 'the people', just a very small section of them.

None of you can debate for toffee, honestly.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7031041)
Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

Exactly what Jack said.

The end.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031023)
Because people get butthurt and ring Ofcom, which gets them in trouble. Then they have to be seen as taking action.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031028)
I disagree, if they were doing what the people wanted they would have kicked her out or atleast revoked her pass by now. Anyway, we're going round in circles here, you don't think she's a vile bully, I do. The End.

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031048)
That is not true at all, not everyone wants her out. So you do not speak on behalf of 'the people', just a very small section of them.

None of you can debate for toffee, honestly.

:umm2:

Tom4784 09-07-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030539)
So if someone has a problem with you, you would rather them laugh and snigger and bitch behind your back rather than come up to your face and say it as plain as day right at you?

Never bullied at school were you?

I personally wouldn't care if people bitched about me behind my back. It's their problem, not mine.

MeMyselfAndI 09-07-2014 03:47 PM

Helen is a nasty bully, the way she walked out laughing with other girls, making someone feel uncomfortable

"I've seen loads of stuff.. seen people bitching hahahahahaha"
"It was so great to see peoples true colours hahahahah"

before it even happened, Jale, Kim, Helen are ****ing awful

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031063)
:umm2:

people

the people

There is a difference

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031125)
people

the people

There is a difference

I was responding to your post, referring to the same "people" you were talking about :rolleyes:

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031147)
I was responding to your post, referring to the same "people" you were talking about :rolleyes:

So what does the inclusion of the word 'the' add to your post? That's right, it implies all people, and gives it a whole different meaning. It would have been perfectly legible without it and I would not have made the reply that I did.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031162)
So what does the inclusion of the word 'the' add to your post? That's right, it implies all people, and gives it a whole different meaning. It would have been perfectly legible without it and I would not have made the reply that I did.

Don't be ridiculous, If I thought all the people hate Helen, then how would I be here arguing with you about her? I don't believe for a second that you thought that's what I meant but nice try anyhow :hehe:

Marsh. 09-07-2014 04:01 PM

Oh for god's sake, this is beyond a joke now.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7031179)
Oh for god's sake, this is beyond a joke now.

:laugh:

Verbal 09-07-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7031178)
Don't be ridiculous, If I thought all the people hate Helen, then how would I be here arguing with you about her? I don't believe for a second that you thought that's what I meant but nice try anyhow :hehe:

All I had to go on was what you wrote. What you wrote suggested that you represent 'all people'.

You've clarified that you meant otherwise. That's fine

THE END

the truth 09-07-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7031041)
Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

defending the females in the house again jack, even ones as abusive and bullying as jack. if any man behaved like her to a woman, hed have been turfed out by now.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7031193)
All I had to go on was what you wrote. What you wrote suggested that you represent 'all people'.

You've clarified that you meant otherwise. That's fine

THE END

No need to shout at me Hel...........verbal :hehe:


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