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kirklancaster 25-11-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7390878)
i wonder how trigger happy you'd be, if you went out everyday on calls where you don't know if you ever get to see your family again.

Cops are the bravest people on the planet.

especially in a county like America where you know there are guns everywhere.

Perhaps it's time then Alex for the USA to take another look at its 'Gun Laws'.

I have watched some pretty sick documentaries on the subject involving fathers teaching their children - some as young as 6 - how to shoot guns. One sicko had a cache of weapons which would equip a platoon of soldiers, and even took his 7 year old daughter hunting deer.

And whilst i agree that American cops are among the bravest people on the planet, such an accolade does not preclude there being sick fecks with their own agenda from being in their ranks.

Nedusa 25-11-2014 08:35 PM

The boy in question was either incredibly stupid or incredibly arrogant but regardless of which I would suggest the world is probably a safer place without him.

Feel sorry for his family and the policeman who was the unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.




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GiRTh 25-11-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7390934)
The boy in question was either incredibly stupid or incredibly arrogant but regardless of which I would suggest the world is probably a safer place without him.

Feel sorry for his family and the policeman who was the unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.




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A 12 year old boy is a threat to the world? How do you come to that conclusion?

Nedusa 25-11-2014 08:40 PM

Let's just say some poor drugstore worker or liquor store owner is probably now not going to be robbed and violently gunned down somewhere in a few years time.

That's a whole family now not having to go through the worst ordeal of their lives.

Nuff said.





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GiRTh 25-11-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7390942)
Let's just say some poor drugstore worker or liquor store owner is probably now not going to be robbed and violently gunned down somewhere in a few years time.

That's a whole family now not having to go through the worst ordeal of their lives.

Nuff said.





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Do you have any evidence to support this? No but in your head this kid that you know nothing about is gonna rob stores in few years time. Hmmmmmmn. Interesting.

Niamh. 25-11-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7390494)
Considering how quick they are to use them, you'd think a fully trained officer could be able to tell the difference between a toy and the real thing as well.

Never mind the fact that, if there was a situation, the police officer should have diffused the situation calmly or at worst use non lethal force, not shoot a child and realise his mistake afterwards. At best he is an incompetent officer that murdered a child, at worst he is an incompetent racist officer who racially profiled the child and tackled the situation with extreme prejudice.

Would this officer be so quick to fire if the child was white? I think not.

I hate to say it/think it but I think you're right.

Niamh. 25-11-2014 08:50 PM

I hope that kids parents aren't reading any of this online stuff, they must be devastated enough as it is :(

Crimson Dynamo 25-11-2014 08:50 PM

People still thinking police men want to kill children

Disgusting

Shame on them

Nedusa 25-11-2014 08:51 PM

Let's just say playing with guns at such an early age... Hmmmmn !!! Balance of probabilities suggest that sort of person might just grow up with firearms and learn to use them on a casual basis.

You are right I'm no mind reader but I respectively suggest the writing is on the wall.

Nothing of interest here.




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GiRTh 25-11-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7390956)
Let's just say playing with guns at such an early age... Hmmmmn !!! Balance of probabilities suggest that sort of person might just grow up with firearms and learn to use them on a casual basis.

You are right I'm no mind reader but I respectively suggest the writing is on the wall.

Nothing of interest here.




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A poster has mentioned in this thread that in other areas of the USa kids as young as 8 are shooting weapons encouraged by their parents. There was case just a few months ago of the sweet 9 year old girl shooting at a range who accidentally shot and killed her instructor. Do you think that sweet nine year old is gonna grow up to be violent too.?

Niamh. 25-11-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7390955)
People still thinking police men want to kill children

Disgusting

Shame on them

I'm sure they don't but it seems that they're racially profiling and not being trained properly in dealing with situations like this.

GiRTh 25-11-2014 08:58 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...evastated.html

Here it is.

Look at the sweet kid in her pink shorts. So surrounded by all theses gun at such an early age this girls gonna be a serial killer in a few years?

Niamh. 25-11-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7390959)
A poster has mentioned in this thread that in other areas of the USa kids as young as 8 are shooting weapons encouraged by their parents. There was case just a few months ago of the sweet 9 year old girl shooting at a range who accidentally shot and killed her instructor. Do you think that sweet nine year old is gonna grow up to be violent too.?

imo it sounds like a normal 12 year old boy thing to be interested in "guns" and playing like that, as I said earlier in the thread my own 10 year old son is always running around with toy guns pretending to shoot at people and cars etc

Nedusa 25-11-2014 09:01 PM

Guns are dangerous in the hands of anyone who is not trained in how to use firearms. Not sayin everyone who handles guns at an early age becomes a gun toting psychopath but if you did turn bad guns would probably figure in your plans.




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GiRTh 25-11-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7390966)
Guns are dangerous in the hands of anyone who is not trained in how to use firearms. Not sayin everyone who handles guns at an early age becomes a gun toting psychopath but if you did turn bad guns would probably figure in your plans.




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You haven't explained how the world is a safer place now this 12 year old is dead but this cute little girl in her pink shorts has actually killed someone. Surely the world would be a better place with out her too?

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...psebad2b76.jpg

Ninastar 25-11-2014 09:04 PM

If a 15 year old boy in the UK can calmly stab a teacher to death with people watching, there's not telling what a 12 year old boy with a gun could do.

(Yes, I'm aware it was fake, but the police and public did not know that)

GiRTh 25-11-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7390955)
People still thinking police men want to kill children

Disgusting

Shame on them

Shame on them eh? But nothing about the cops who thought a child was about to murder them and BTW there have been very very few instances, all over the world, of 12 year olds murdering policemen. If this kid had been for real then he would have been the first I've heard of but if you know of 12 year olds murdering police then tell us all about them. These cops are the ones who should be ashamed.

lostalex 25-11-2014 10:45 PM

If it's all about white racism and white superiority, why don't we see little ASIAN children being shot all the time? funny how the asian community has managed to make themselves immune to this evil white man's evil. how do you figure that happened...?

funny how the asian community, like other immigrant communities before them have managed to fit in, and raise successful children, and not just wallow in self pity like some other communities...

Indians, japanese, chinese all seem to be doing okay. gays and women who have been even been more discriminated against than blacks, hell gays still doesn't even have equal rights yet, but for some reason blacks are always the victims... i wonder why.

Every criminal i've ever met likes to paint himself as a victim.

Kizzy 26-11-2014 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7390956)
Let's just say playing with guns at such an early age... Hmmmmn !!! Balance of probabilities suggest that sort of person might just grow up with firearms and learn to use them on a casual basis.

You are right I'm no mind reader but I respectively suggest the writing is on the wall.

Nothing of interest here.




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Have you been in toys are us lately?... the shelves are full of toy guns. Lads for generations have played 'cowboys and indians', had futuristic lazor guns, played with water pistols.
It's entirely normal, more so in America than anywhere, but you are right...nothing of interest in prejudiced opinion.

Nedusa 26-11-2014 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7391154)
Have you been in toys are us lately?... the shelves are full of toy guns. Lads for generations have played 'cowboys and indians', had futuristic lazor guns, played with water pistols.
It's entirely normal, more so in America than anywhere, but you are right...nothing of interest in prejudiced opinion.

Not sure how you think my opinion is prejudiced, but I agree toy shops are full of toy guns, unfortunately the U.S is awash with real guns and real bullets that actually will kill people.

The gun issue in the US is the real issue here the issue behind all these so called race killings. The fact is the police in the US will pretty much always shoot first and ask questions later exactly because the suspect anybody and everybody could have a concealed firearm.

And this includes young people , old people, black people and white people.

I don't think it's a racist thing with the police more of a survivalist thing.

The real problem is the sheer number of firearms in the US and the ridiculous ease with which people can get access to these dangerous weapons.




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kirklancaster 26-11-2014 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=Nedusa;7390966]Guns are dangerous in the hands of anyone who is not trained in how to use firearms. Not sayin everyone who handles guns at an early age becomes a gun toting psychopath but if you did turn bad guns would probably figure in your plans.

I love your posts Nedusa and usually agree with you, but I think you're wrong here.

All this incident would suggest is; that with rogue cops, guns are sometimes also lethally dangerous in the hands of even those who are trained in how to use firearms.

With these deviants, the cop badge, far from being a 'Medal of Honour', is just a 'licence to kill'.

kirklancaster 26-11-2014 10:17 AM

[QUOTE=Nedusa;7391181]Not sure how you think my opinion is prejudiced, but I agree toy shops are full of toy guns, unfortunately the U.S is awash with real guns and real bullets that actually will kill people.

The gun issue in the US is the real issue here the issue behind all these so called race killings.

Absolutely agree.

The fact is the police in the US will pretty much always shoot first and ask questions later exactly because the suspect anybody and everybody could have a concealed firearm.

This maybe a fact but that does not make it an acceptable practice by public guardians who have sworn to 'serve and protect'. There is a Criminal Justice System in place and a policy called due process of law.

And this includes young people , old people, black people and white people.
I don't think it's a racist thing with the police more of a survivalist thing.

I am not proposing that 'racism' is institutionally rooted in the police service in America, but the evidence that individual officers or even groups of officers are racist, is overwhelming. Racism of any description is unacceptable, but when it comes to anyone in a position of authority, then such people should be paragons and any racism in such people should be rooted out and the racists given long term jail sentences.

The real problem is the sheer number of firearms in the US and the ridiculous ease with which people can get access to these dangerous weapons.


I wholeheartedly agree Nedusa. 1,000%.

arista 26-11-2014 10:57 AM

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...d-460x276.jpeg
This looked real although as toy

Police told him to drop it


He did not.



In this Case the Police were just doing their job

Niamh. 26-11-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 7391274)
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...d-460x276.jpeg
This looked real although as toy

Police told him to drop it


He did not.



In this Case the Police were just doing their job

My son has guns that look like that :shrug: I can't believe there was no other alternative then to shoot this child dead

arista 26-11-2014 11:14 AM

You have a choice drop you gun
or be shot

That child did the wrong thing , sadly


Its USA Normal Police work


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