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Jake. 26-01-2015 10:09 PM

Or perhaps nobody gets warned and we let them get on with it? :think:

Lister of Smeg 26-01-2015 10:30 PM

Perez is Latino as well both his parents are Cuban.

Withano 26-01-2015 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercado (Post 7533885)
It's true that in most of Latin America Chola can be used pejoratively but in Los Angeles a chola is also known as a "homegirl" and there is a homegirl culture and the term is not derogatory. Fergie and. Gwen Steffani have used chola culture in their videos. Cholas are often tough girls that "don't take no **** from nobody", so it would make sense Cami would call herself a Chola as would Perez.

Lets all take a minute to reflect on our first ever post on this forum and realise we'll never be as cool as this guy

Northern Monkey 26-01-2015 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7533616)
It's not just Perez who's saying it it's Patsy too...

Poor Patsy she's clueless.She'd be horrified if she knew she was using racial slurs.She almost topped herself after asking Alex to take her to Compton:laugh:

Mick McMick 27-01-2015 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 7533959)
Or perhaps nobody gets warned and we let them get on with it? :think:

Bring back Ken!

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 7533599)
He's Cuban so it's all good.

Exactly.

Perez is afraid of no Chola.

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7533728)
If they've said it then yeah maybe they should. Tonight is the only time I have noticed it and thought it was said in a derogatory fashion.

Really? More like you was looking out for it because it was Perez saying it.

abhorson 27-01-2015 05:00 AM

So happy that i never got involved in this one. For a change no infractions :laugh:

Caballo 27-01-2015 05:51 AM

Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caballo (Post 7534527)
Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

Vanessa 27-01-2015 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7534535)
Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

It's ok for Patsy and Cami to use that word, but not Perez. :suspect:

Cherie 27-01-2015 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercado (Post 7533885)
It's true that in most of Latin America Chola can be used pejoratively but in Los Angeles a chola is also known as a "homegirl" and there is a homegirl culture and the term is not derogatory. Fergie and. Gwen Steffani have used chola culture in their videos. Cholas are often tough girls that "don't take no **** from nobody", so it would make sense Cami would call herself a Chola as would Perez.

:clap2:

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7534540)
It's ok for Patsy and Cami to use that word, but not Perez. :suspect:

According to the anti-dick crowd I would say you're right.

Vanessa 27-01-2015 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7534547)
According to the anti-dick crowd I would say you're right.

Perez is 3rd favourite to win, so it's all good. This is not even worth bothering about. It's nit picking. :spin:

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7534549)
Perez is 3rd favourite to win, so it's all good. This is not even worth bothering about. It's nit picking. :spin:

His 3rd favourite to win?

His making a Pereiever out of us all.

Caballo 27-01-2015 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7534535)
Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

I agree non of them should be using it, look at the context in which it's being used for your answer as to why Perez is copping the main flak (haters aside). He's using it as a derogatory term in monologues to camera, the other two are mimicing Cami in coversations with her.

Mystic Mock 27-01-2015 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Caballo (Post 7534556)
I agree non of them should be using it, look at the context in which it's being used for your answer as to why Perez is copping the main flak (haters aside). He's using it as a derogatory term in monologues to camera, the other two are mimicing Cami in coversations with her.

Fair enough with your post, at least you are not pretending not to have heard the other two say the word though.

Jose Mourinho 27-01-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7533578)
Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

In modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

That's why.

Vanessa 27-01-2015 07:47 AM

She will be gone tonight, so I won't have to see this pathetic excuse for a human being anymore. YAY! :cheer2:

chuff me dizzy 27-01-2015 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg (Post 7534096)
Perez is Latino as well both his parents are Cuban.

Makes no difference

Jose Mourinho 27-01-2015 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7533578)
Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7534673)
Makes no difference

n modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

Modern usage, THX.

smudgie 27-01-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7534597)
In modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

That's why.

Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:

Jose Mourinho 27-01-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 7534681)
Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:

THIS!

Vanessa 27-01-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 7534681)
Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:

This reminds me of last year, when people were desperately trying to stop Gary from winning. It failed! :joker:

johne 27-01-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caballo (Post 7534527)
Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

And while you've got your mirrors out take another long hard look, and wonder why you've spent four pages of debate concerning what politically correct word is or isn't acceptable this week. Doesn't it make you think that perhaps society is getting rather sinister????


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