Originally Posted by Jamesy (Post 7559598)

Anyone could make a similar thread listing every bad thing Perez has done outside the house...

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559524)

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7559593)

Good for you Poppsy. I totally agree with you. I'm not disabled, but I do hate the benefit cheats who take money from the system when there is eff-all wrong with them. That money could be better spent on people who are genuinely disabled and need funds spent to adapt housing etc. Where I live there's a 'won't work' culture and yet they all have foreign holidays and brand new 'motability' cars. It sickens me. I was raised to work for things you want, and only to claim if you are in genuine need. So yeah, if that's the people KH has been slagging off, then I agree with her.

As to being overweight... I''m a fatty.. and it's because I eat junk food, and don't exercise enough. When I eat right, and exercise regularly, I lose weight, so she might be blunt, but she's right.. I'm fat for no other reason than my own lifestyle choices, so how can I get offended for that. It's like getting offended for being called loud when you are loud.. (which I also am... fat, loud and proud... got a lot goin for me here... haha)

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 7559673)

Yet another thread trying oh-so-desperately to get people to 'hate' KH, or make them 'feel bad' for liking her.

In response to the OP :

Frankie Boyle has made MUCH more cutting edge jokes than that - and he's brilliant !!

Long Live The Right To Make Offensive Jokes !

If they misfire and aren't that funny (like KH's ebola joke) then so what? Just move on.

Plenty of unfunny jokes out there, offensive ones and inoffensive ones.

Plenty of funny ones too, some offensive, some inoffensive.

Thank God we live in a country where we can make cutting edge jokes. Anyone who doesn't like it, i suggest they move to a country where freedom of expression is seriously repressed, and see how they like it there.

Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7559601)

To be fair this thread wasn't about anything she has said about fat or disabled people. It was about her mocking a dying woman by referring her as an "Ebola bomb".
And someone doesn't have to be a target of abuse to be upset by it. It's called empathy.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559682)

Maybe not, in this thread but we seem to be lumped in by some with all the other groups KH has commented on.

Empathy is fine as long as it is just that and not ignoring that some might be disabled but we have a tongue in our heads and can and will put our point of view across and don't want someone who has little idea, lumping us all together to attack KH.

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7559679)

Good post.

Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559684)

But what about KH lumping you altogether to attack the scroungers, that's fine yeah?

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559690)

There you go, see what I mean? Perfect example of using us to attack KH again.

KH can attack scroungers all she likes, thank you, full stop. (Keith)

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7559679)

Good post.

Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559717)

Don't get above your station, I was not using you to attack KH.

I was only repeating what she had said herself when she said MOST disability allowance receivers would be able to climb to the top of a ladder, it is her that uses people by putting everyone in the same bracket to have a go at the minority, not me.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559682)

Maybe not, in this thread but we seem to be lumped in by some with all the other groups KH has commented on.

Empathy is fine as long as it is just that and not ignoring that some might be disabled but we have a tongue in our heads and can and will put our point of view across and don't want someone who has little idea, lumping us all together to attack KH.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559745)

Please don't tell me to get above my station as it is rude and not up to you.

Apart from that, I have actually seen a neighbour on DA do exactly that putting up his Christmas lights, so personally I have seen what she wrote with my own eyes. It DOES happen.

Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7559753)

Many people in a targeted group would be quite upset if the only people who complained about someone's comments were people from that group.
They would feel like the rest of society doesn't care about them.

Maybe you didn't but I'm sure many overweight and disabled people welcomed criticism of Katie Hopkins from people who weren't directly targeted by those comments.

Anyway this thread is about her more serious comments mocking a dying woman.

Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559751)

I can tell you what I bloody like, it's up to you to do it or not, but I can and will tell you.

Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7559753)

Many people in a targeted group would be quite upset if the only people who complained about someone's comments were people from that group.
They would feel like the rest of society doesn't care about them.

Maybe you didn't but I'm sure many overweight and disabled people welcomed criticism of Katie Hopkins from people who weren't directly targeted by those comments.

Anyway this thread is about her more serious comments mocking a dying woman.

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559790)

You are being offensive towards another poster, not clever

Originally Posted by tormented mind (Post 7559801)

I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7559790)

You are being offensive towards another poster, not clever