They both did really slow Indie tracks, Matt was praised by the public for it, while Janet was tagged as dull for the doing the same thing.

Because she was dull, not because of the stuff she sang, but because she was dull.

I also wouldn't compare them at all. She was a gothic type whereas Matt Cardle also sang more uptempo songs.

I'm really tired and idk what's going on but dull people do get praised and end up being overrated like Andrea.

I do think that she struggled with the themes.

But Indie singers are going to, yet Matt got away with his struggles more than Janet did.

Matt wasn't indie though.

Hold your horses sunshine

Just another overrated singer really

Rebecca should have won :flutter:

Matt Cardle did uptempo?

And you described Janet perfectly, yet did she really get gothic songs on the show? No so she had to do a Matt and change the style of the songs and got abused for it.

But was that because she's a young white pretty girl? NO.

End of discussion.

It's because X Factor has a very narrow mainstream appeal, if you don't fit through it you're eliminated. All acts go through this, white, black, yellow, green, fat, thin, ugly, pretty.

So the good looking guy getting praised for changing the style of the song, but the pretty white girl gets abused for doing the same thing disproves my point how exactly?

It's not 'live feed' - it's just making the part of the judges' houses episodes live.

From http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/x...-plans-5720150

Well first of all she wasn't abused and second of all the very fact you have no proof that the pretty white girl was disliked for being a pretty white girl.

Not to mention the fact she's pretty is pretty ****ing debatable. :laugh:

Not to mention maybe Matt's style change worked and hers didn't? Plenty people can do the "exact same thing" but it's not going to yield the "exact same results".

I don't even find Janet attractive personally, I just know that a lot of people did and what ended up happening to her? She got the dull tag.

And Matt and Janet had a similar journey to me, they both had their weeks when they was good (Matt with Just The Way You Are and Baby One More Time, I find his First Time I Ever Saw Your Face overrated) and Janet had Fix You, and Kiss Me that worked for her, but they had their bad performances too that was absolutely dire like when Matt went for Dido's Here With Me, and Janet's Mmmbop.:umm2:

Each and every X Factor contestant there's been will be attractive to some viewers somewhere (yes even Tesco Mary and that hairy big thing) so that's not a very strong argument.

I'm on about a sizeable chunk of the public, not Mary's friends and stomach.

So they criticised her because a "sizeable chunk" of the audience thought this 16 year old was "pretty".

Ok Mock. :laugh:

Well Simon tends to only like the mixed race and black girls, and the housewives that mainly vote on the show tend to hate pretty girls period, but the white girls suffer the most from their wrath imo.

Didn't Janet keep forgetting the lyrics? I think that was why she was eliminated :hehe:

Good lord

It's not live feed lol. It's a live show of judges houses. Misleading title imo

Just bring back fame academy

I'm not the only one to think it about Simon.:joker:

Please don't bump this

Bump.:hehe: