He is humiliating himself tho if nikki never said anything he would have been embarrassed by the boos because he already thinks he is the public's favourite like Wolfy did

I think we all know the answer to this one.

As I said deluded,and there are far worse said in some of these posts than Helen has EVER said,go check yourselves. I would think it cruel if she did that to anyone.

Exactly. :)

But what Jack "already thinks" is irrelevent to the point being made that Nikki is being spiteful. Yes, he already thinks he's popular, but Nikki is intentionally building this up even more just to take the piss out of him.

She might be "having fun", she seemed to be having a lot of fun in 2006 when she suggested hiding Shahbaz's clothes to "hurt him more", too. Shame she can't have fun without it being at someone else's expense.

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Yeah same but then I have to remind myself he's a real person and then I think, you know that really is cruel and nasty

no I because Joel isn't up himself, I said in another post if Nikki did it to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty.

So you're literally saying that it's okay because she's doing it to Jack?

Wow, someone who can make distinctions.

..............

Literally that's all I can say to that.

He's saying it's okay because she's doing it to a guy whose ego has got a bit out of control

because he already thinks he is the public's favourite..

I know I know...I keep flip flopping between feeling incredibly sorry for him, and thinking how funny it will be. When it comes to it though, I probably won't find it funny as it will probably completely crush him. I just hate when housemates get it into their heads that they are definitely going to win, and thats jack all over :S

That doesn't make a difference to the situation in the slightest

It would be totally different if Helen was doing what Nikkis done ......double standards

As harry has called him,this isn't about housemates calling each other names,and btw,Nikki hasn't just called her one word,that one just stuck as it was weird,,lol,anyway this is about Nikki,giving someone the impression they are a winner,loved by the public,and then lolling about it in the DR as she knows it's not true,so she gets away with lying too.

Yeah i know what you mean and Jack was already turning pretty dickish he was that sure of himself.....it still is very cruel though. The question about the adoring fans was funny but I think that's where the line should have been drawn.

:joker: It's a funny old world

What she's doing is way better, she's giving him the rope to hang himself with. It's simple and dumb to think that she should just go in and run her mouth off, what's the point of that? What she's doing is way better.

He is his own undoing.

She has defended herself in response to the relentless attacks which have been far more vicious than anything Nikki has said and done to anyone.

If anyone is getting away with everything it is a guy who walks around half naked and is supposedly "entertaining". The girls on the other hand can't put a foot wrong or do anything vaguely controversial without being attacked.


Ooooh! She's told a few porkies to a guy who has got a bit above himself. The sinister little cow!

I can't see it that way,to me she's been all mouth,but failed with the action part

So because he's an ass, that gives her the right to be cruel and sly? :shrug:

It probably wouldn't. The problem people have always had with Helen is that she is so in your face and aggressive it is offputting. If she did anything a little more subtle and clever people would almost be impressed. But that's not her style.

But I repeat that the double standards, if there are any, is the attitude towards the girls on this show and the attitude towards Marc who can get away with being the biggest bully in there.

That's a very simplistic way of looking things.

She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.