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Kazanne 27-06-2015 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7936403)
Her latest in a long line of brainless twitter insults must have you near to bursting with glee and pride. I'm happy for you that your support for Helen enhances your life.
Thankyou:wavey:

Tarryn 27-06-2015 12:57 PM
She said some totally nasty & unacceptable things BUT she does not regret them.
There is nothing anyone can do to change this woman.
Even if she said sorry to Brian she would not mean it, so what's the point :shrug:
BB probably made it clear to her before she went in the house to stir it up.
Job done.
Do I like the woman ?, no but I don't have to concern myself with her anymore.
Is she pure evil ?, no. Just a bit of twat.
If Helen had gone in there & been Miss Nice everybody would have slated her saying she is fake.
I detest her behaviour but unfortunately the one thing that woman is not is fake.
I'm just glad she's gone.

Jack_ 27-06-2015 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanP! (Post 7935995)
Oh my god. She is out of the house. Get over it
Even her haters cannot stop talking about Helen <3
This thread was made on a night when Helen was asked to account for her actions by the production team. Perhaps tell them that she's 'out of the house'

But please don't tell me what to do, thanks babe xo

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7936138)
Nice to see Helen is still the topic of conversation on here,lol, Helen was a great housemate,she didn't bully anyone,she's not liked by some,Ah well,who really cares ? I enjoyed watching her,bit sick of people TRYING to force their opinions on people.
Yes she did bully Brian in the scene I described in the OP, I'll wait for your defence of it if you think it wasn't bullying.

And it isn't an opinion. It's a fact.

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7936253)
Well I for one will support who I want and ignore the backhanded comments about how 'terrible' Helen supporters are ,I really don't care , people acting as though they have never done or said anything wrong is laughable , so you can hint at us all you want,I am not a sheep,I support Helen and proud to say so.
I've done things wrong in my life, but I have never bullied someone by mocking and goading them when they're in front of me shaking and saying nothing. Because I have a conscience and know that's clearly unacceptable. Perhaps you have though, who knows.

jet 27-06-2015 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7936522)
I've done things wrong in my life, but I have never bullied someone by mocking and goading them when they're in front of me shaking and saying nothing. Because I have a conscience and know that's clearly unacceptable. Perhaps you have though, who knows.
:clap2: There are people in this world who not only find mocking, goading and insulting behaviour acceptable (and that awful woman is still at it on twitter) - they glory it it, relish it and enable it. They don't appear to appreciate kindness and decency (too boring!) and they don't seem to care about what is acceptable and what isn't as long as they get their kick - and unless it's directed at them personally - and most are probably too long in the tooth to change. :hehe:

sungrass 27-06-2015 01:59 PM
Its best not to talk about Helen anymore. There are good and evil people in the world and you wont change anyones mind- but it hurts the good people more to see people like Helen do their work.

TBH Im really tired of talking about it.

sungrass 27-06-2015 02:00 PM
yes jet exactly i hadnt even read your post

Kazanne 27-06-2015 02:04 PM
Blimey,heaven will be running out of those halos and harps pretty soon:angel: :laugh:

Nancy. 27-06-2015 02:15 PM
I'm sick of reading comments about poor Brian this and poor Brian that.
If you listen carefully, Kazanne, you'll hear the sound of violins in the distance. :joker:

Kazanne 27-06-2015 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom (Post 7936632)
I'm sick of reading comments about poor Brian this and poor Brian that.
If you listen carefully, Kazanne, you'll hear the sound of violins in the distance. :joker:
Yes,you'de think Helen was arguing with herself:joker::joker: Pass me my bow:hehe:

Nancy. 27-06-2015 02:19 PM
:laugh:

Glenn. 27-06-2015 02:22 PM
I do hope Brian is ok though.

waterhog 27-06-2015 02:47 PM
if anyone feels brian is a bad person - then you have not watched BB or no how to read people.

it is a shame helon was allowed to wind him up like this and it is a shame brian reacted like he did.

fact something had to be done and a line was crossed.

this will all keep the debate running and will onlt gain more support for brian and put helen in the public eye more and more which she is loving.

the thing to do now is to keep loving brian and forget about this melon and move on and if anyone employs her - well it says more about them then anything.

the truth 27-06-2015 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7935487)
...were worse than her conduct on the night of Brian's departure? This is something that's really annoying me both on the show and on the forums.

Yes her comments were disgusting and completely unacceptable, but the worst thing about that night was the scene where she deliberately antagonised him (and admitted to doing so, 'yes I am going to antagonise you now) as he sat on the sofa in silence, visibly shaking and on the brink of tears, all while she had a smirk on her face and enjoyed the weakness he was displaying.

That is the real issue here, the comments she made following that are just a side show. That is what she should be made to apologise for, and what she's said she won't (how she isn't sorry she upset him, which is what this was). I feel like everyone's completely oblivious to the fact this happened, and it was beyond uncomfortable and totally out of order.

Helen should count herself extremely lucky that Big Brother isn't as popular as it once was and that barely anyone will have seen this, because if it were I can guarantee there'd have been security at her eviction, she'd be forced into making a public apology a la Jade and the race row, and she would be facing a barrage for the foreseeable future even more than she will be now. It's a real shame that she's going to be able to get away with this essentially cause no one will have seen it.
shes the subhuman spawn of satan, big brother are a disgrace for not ejecting her the moment those disgusting slanderous illegal words left her disgusting lips..if they hadn't let that trash in, the show would have been 100001 times better, wed have had infinitely more fun humour romance ...but this evil witch killed the show...she is gone now ...I don't ever want to see or hear her evil anywhere ever again, the second she comes on tv change the channel....the best way to deal with satan is total indifference, she should be ignored and shunned by all humanity and no doubt her evil will one day see her either imprisoned or locked away in an institution for everyones protection

ps nikki was fantastic

Jack_ 27-06-2015 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7936759)
No,that's not so, here we are again ,people going off on their own tangent again,thinking that they know what others are thinking and what they are like,I am just sick of people making out they are so perfect in life and have never done anything or said anything nasty,we have ALL done it,we all have a dark side,All those people name calling and pontificating about Helen and her wrong doings need to take a good look at themselves,we all know she was wrong to say what she did,but people in the same breath ignoring what Brian /Nikki and Ashleine did is laughable,nothing wrong with being a nice person but have the balls at least to admit no one is ALWAYS nice,some are acting on here like they need saint hood,we are all human good and bad.
Well from this I gather that you've missed the point of the thread completely. I wasn't talking about the comments Helen made (it says in the title), I was talking about her conduct in the scene where she went at Brian as he sat in silence and didn't retaliate. Her comments pale in comparison to that and that's the issue I'm raising, why are people concentrating on her comments when that wasn't even the main thing she did wrong?

I'm not denying Brian, Nikki or Aisleyne never said anything wrong to her, they all did, and Brian gave as good as he got in every other scene apart from this one instance, which is fine. But when he wasn't saying anything and she was goading him and getting enjoyment out of it, she was being a bully. It doesn't matter whether someone shouts at you before or after, if you're in a situation with someone in which they aren't retaliating and you carry on, you are being a bully.

Kazanne 27-06-2015 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7936790)
Well from this I gather that you've missed the point of the thread completely. I wasn't talking about the comments Helen made (it says in the title), I was talking about her conduct in the scene where she went at Brian as he sat in silence and didn't retaliate. Her comments pale in comparison to that and that's the issue I'm raising, why are people concentrating on her comments when that wasn't even the main thing she did wrong?

I'm not denying Brian, Nikki or Aisleyne never said anything wrong to her, they all did, and Brian gave as good as he got in every other scene apart from this one instance, which is fine. But when he wasn't saying anything and she was goading him and getting enjoyment out of it, she was being a bully. It doesn't matter whether someone shouts at you before or after, if you're in a situation with someone in which they aren't retaliating and you carry on, you are being a bully.
And I can take that on board,but I still don't think it warrants the abuse she got it goes way too far at times,it's like she's killed someone,it's way over the top,but she's gone now time to move on I guess.

Glenn. 27-06-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7936790)
Well from this I gather that you've missed the point of the thread completely. I wasn't talking about the comments Helen made (it says in the title), I was talking about her conduct in the scene where she went at Brian as he sat in silence and didn't retaliate. Her comments pale in comparison to that and that's the issue I'm raising, why are people concentrating on her comments when that wasn't even the main thing she did wrong?

I'm not denying Brian, Nikki or Aisleyne never said anything wrong to her, they all did, and Brian gave as good as he got in every other scene apart from this one instance, which is fine. But when he wasn't saying anything and she was goading him and getting enjoyment out of it, she was being a bully. It doesn't matter whether someone shouts at you before or after, if you're in a situation with someone in which they aren't retaliating and you carry on, you are being a bully.
:clap1:

Griffin5779 27-06-2015 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 7936695)
if anyone feels brian is a bad person - then you have not watched BB or no how to read people.

it is a shame helon was allowed to wind him up like this and it is a shame brian reacted like he did.

fact something had to be done and a line was crossed.

this will all keep the debate running and will onlt gain more support for brian and put helen in the public eye more and more which she is loving.

the thing to do now is to keep loving brian and forget about this melon and move on and if anyone employs her - well it says more about them then anything.
i watch brian first time around..i had a positive feeling about him but he wasn't my favorite...

i watched him the last 2 weeks..he was bitchy, aggressive, nasty and seemed to have a problem determining what reality was..jumping all over macr for nominating jade when it was actually his good friend nicki...

the man was prick....and anyone who explains it away by blaming it all on helen isn't someone i would trust to "read people"

Kazanne 27-06-2015 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Griffin5779 (Post 7936834)
i watch brian first time around..i had a positive feeling about him but he wasn't my favorite...

i watched him the last 2 weeks..he was bitchy, aggressive, nasty and seemed to have a problem determining what reality was..jumping all over macr for nominating jade when it was actually his good friend nicki...

the man was prick....and anyone who explains it away by blaming it all on helen isn't someone i would trust to "read people"
:clap1:

LukeB 27-06-2015 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7936790)
Well from this I gather that you've missed the point of the thread completely. I wasn't talking about the comments Helen made (it says in the title), I was talking about her conduct in the scene where she went at Brian as he sat in silence and didn't retaliate. Her comments pale in comparison to that and that's the issue I'm raising, why are people concentrating on her comments when that wasn't even the main thing she did wrong?

I'm not denying Brian, Nikki or Aisleyne never said anything wrong to her, they all did, and Brian gave as good as he got in every other scene apart from this one instance, which is fine. But when he wasn't saying anything and she was goading him and getting enjoyment out of it, she was being a bully. It doesn't matter whether someone shouts at you before or after, if you're in a situation with someone in which they aren't retaliating and you carry on, you are being a bully.
:clap1:

mr rochester 27-06-2015 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7935540)
Jack, you could post a picture of her kicking a kitten in the face and it'd be the kittens fault for having a face.
BEST QUOTE EVER!!!




…and completely true.

Ashley. 27-06-2015 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7935974)
They both left the house now so I honestly don't know why more threads are being made on it
Bullying is a problem in our society. Why ignore it?

AProducer'sWetDream 27-06-2015 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7936253)
Well I for one will support who I want and ignore the backhanded comments about how 'terrible' Helen supporters are ,I really don't care , people acting as though they have never done or said anything wrong is laughable , so you can hint at us all you want,I am not a sheep,I support Helen and proud to say so.
:clap1: I think some people on here are very quick to forget the appalling behaviour of the other legends over the last few weeks. Brian having to be held back by other housemates, standing over Helen and shouting pointing in her face. Not to mention Aisleyne and Nikki giggling in the Diary Room while Helen herself was in tears in the living area are a few examples that spring to mind. All of them acted in unacceptable ways, but I don't see anyone calling Brian, Nikki or Aisleyne bullies.

Creggle 27-06-2015 04:50 PM
I really don't think Brian was 'about to cry', afterwards he got upset but at the time he looked like he wanted to beat the sheet out of Helen, not that I can blame him but he certainly didn't react like a victim. He's got a dark, uncontrollable anger in him that'll come out at some point. He's a nice guy, but it's there. God help whoever triggers it, he was pretty scary to look at during.

Glenn. 27-06-2015 04:52 PM
Can we stop with the Brian would have punched her crap please.

Literally the only reason that has come to light is because satan implied it.

Creggle 27-06-2015 05:02 PM
Nothing to do with that Helen said, it's the first thing I thought before she even commented on his face, he looked like he was about to fight someone.


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