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Daniel. 11-08-2015 07:38 PM
I don't even smoke it often as I have class but the smell slays me here for it smothering the streets

Tom4784 11-08-2015 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8057406)
They made a mistake making alcohol and tobacco freely available and relatively unregulated. Where I am coming from is that we shouldn't sink to the lowest common denominator and just make anything and everything legal. Its not a justification in itself to say that cannabis should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are.

To me its a very strange bandwagon to be on. We know the issues there are with non prescribed drugs in whatever format, so suggesting we add to the mess by making cannabis legal is just illogical.

I should add that any government that positively makes a drug legal which was previously illegal, risks getting their asses sued in this day and age if some unfortunate event can be associated with it. For that reason alone, it will never be legalised
Tobacco and Alcohol are 'relatively' unregulated? Ermm.....no.

There's no reason why weed should be illegal, it's pretty damn harmless (it actually has benefits when it comes to diseases) and the risk to other people is minimal. Obviously when it comes to driving and such it should be treated the same as alcohol but aside from that, when's the last time you heard someone attacking someone else because they were high?

When did ANYONE, let alone me, say that 'anything and everything' should be made legal? I'm not saying we should legalise Heroin or coke or whatever. Weed is basically harmless, keeping it classified as an illegal drug just because is completely and utterly pointless.

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 8057462)
Nobody's laughing except you..........perhaps you are a victim also of this scourge....

My sympathies if that is the case.
Maybe one day you'll actually have a point to make, dear.

Kizzy 11-08-2015 09:04 PM
I don't believe skunk is harmless, will this be included in the legalisation?

Tom4784 11-08-2015 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8058648)
I don't believe skunk is harmless, will this be included in the legalisation?
Well it goes without saying so I don't know why you bring this up when I covered it in the last page. If it was legalised it would also likely be heavily regulated in terms of how it's made and distributed just like Alcohol and Tobacco is, even more so really, given that it would have been a previously illegal drug.

Of course it doesn't stop people from growing their own skunk but then would you want to ban alcohol because some people will brew dangerous batches at home? Of course not. It's reaching and it's a desperate argument overall.

There's no real reason why weed should remain an illegal drug. Any argument against it applies doubly so against Tobacco and Alcohol.

Livia 11-08-2015 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8058771)
Well it goes without saying so I don't know why you bring this up when I covered it in the last page. If it was legalised it would also likely be heavily regulated in terms of how it's made and distributed just like Alcohol and Tobacco is, even more so really, given that it would have been a previously illegal drug.

Of course it doesn't stop people from growing their own skunk but then would you want to ban alcohol because some people will brew dangerous batches at home? Of course not. It's reaching and it's a desperate argument overall.

There's no real reason why weed should remain an illegal drug. Any argument against it applies doubly so against Tobacco and Alcohol.
I'm with you all the way on this one.

lily. 11-08-2015 09:50 PM
I've yet to hear a valid argument against legalising it.

LukeB 11-08-2015 10:16 PM
my friend says she doesn't want to do weed because it's really bad but I see her drinking and getting pissed every weekend and smoking cigarettes. It's fine she doesn't smoke weed but I just don't understand why she does drinking/smoking cigarettes since she said weed is bad for people when cigarettes can give you cancer and things and alcohol can damage your liver/kidney w.e

lily. 11-08-2015 10:22 PM
Yup. There seems to be a lot of anti-weed people who are happy to fill their bodies with cigarettes and alcohol.

Kizzy 11-08-2015 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8058771)
Well it goes without saying so I don't know why you bring this up when I covered it in the last page. If it was legalised it would also likely be heavily regulated in terms of how it's made and distributed just like Alcohol and Tobacco is, even more so really, given that it would have been a previously illegal drug.

Of course it doesn't stop people from growing their own skunk but then would you want to ban alcohol because some people will brew dangerous batches at home? Of course not. It's reaching and it's a desperate argument overall.

There's no real reason why weed should remain an illegal drug. Any argument against it applies doubly so against Tobacco and Alcohol.
It's a debate... I offer my point and you yours, my view isn't reaching or desperate.
It wouldn't address the substance which is the root of the problem with the production of cannabis in the UK then? Seems not so how is this going to be the big solution to the cannabis issue .. it isn't.

the truth 11-08-2015 11:08 PM
when booze was banned and later legalised.....the difference in boozing fell massively, though crime such as bootlegging rose. make of that what you will

lostalex 12-08-2015 03:05 AM
cannabis for ALL!

they should pump cannabis smoke through the air vents in every building.

waterhog 12-08-2015 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8059323)
cannabis for ALL!

they should pump cannabis smoke through the air vents in every building.


lostalex - you are more extreme then me - i would not go that far :joker:

Cherie 12-08-2015 08:06 AM
Yet another debate ruined because views are not respected and countered with proper argument but the usual insults..but that's another thread I guess :unsure:

Tom4784 12-08-2015 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8058898)
It's a debate... I offer my point and you yours, my view isn't reaching or desperate.
It wouldn't address the substance which is the root of the problem with the production of cannabis in the UK then? Seems not so how is this going to be the big solution to the cannabis issue .. it isn't.
Again, how is it any different to homebrewed alcohol? You've conveniently ignored that in favour of one line that doesn't even have any bearing on the discussion because you know you can't argue against it.

You're making the skunk issue bigger than it actually is because it's the only point you have and, like all anti-weed arguments, it applies more to alcohol and tobacco than weed.

Tom4784 12-08-2015 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8059438)
Yet another debate ruined because views are not respected and countered with proper argument but the usual insults..but that's another thread I guess :unsure:
I'd say baiting comments like yours that actually add nothing to the debate run the risk of ruining it more than anything anyone else has said so far.

waterhog 12-08-2015 09:49 AM
i think i need to do a "love of my life" for all forum members ?


this could be heaven for everyone forum user ? if we want ? lets try it ?

Cherie 12-08-2015 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8059473)
I'd say baiting comments like yours that actually add nothing to the debate run the risk of ruining it more than anything anyone else has said so far.
Just expressing a view, you need look no further than yourself for baiting and constantly insulting members while you hide behind your mod status

Cherie 12-08-2015 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 8059475)
i think i need to do a "love of my life" for all forum members ?


this could be heaven for everyone forum user ? if we want ? lets try it ?
:laugh: sounds good.

lostalex 12-08-2015 09:55 AM
i really don't understand how this is such a long thread. weed is being legalized, get over it. i don't know why anyone can be against it.

its the year 2015. people that smoke weed don't hurt anyone else, let them smoke!

it's stupid to me to spend more tax payer's money on putting people in jail just for smoking weed. so stupid. leave the pot heads alone! let
s use our tax money for better things, please!

i don't like smoking weed, i think it's stupid, i think it makes people act stupid and sound stupid.... but i certainly don't think we should be wasting money on putting them in jail! They are harmless.

Tom4784 12-08-2015 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8059476)
Just expressing a view, you need look no further than yourself for baiting and constantly insulting members while you hide behind your mod status
Ah, you're just looking for a argument then. Typical.

Funny that you adding nothing to the topic but baiting remarks and insults aimed at me and you call that 'expressing a view' yet my posts, in which I've discussed this topic and posted very valid points is deemed 'baiting and insulting'.

Bit strange that.

lostalex 12-08-2015 10:09 AM
i can think of plenty of people that should be put in jail, marijuana smokers is not at the top of my list though. it's a total waste of resources to keep criminalizing those people.

Kizzy 12-08-2015 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8059472)
Again, how is it any different to homebrewed alcohol? You've conveniently ignored that in favour of one line that doesn't even have any bearing on the discussion because you know you can't argue against it.

You're making the skunk issue bigger than it actually is because it's the only point you have and, like all anti-weed arguments, it applies more to alcohol and tobacco than weed.
The isn't about alcohol though :/
That is legal and people can get high strength alcohol very cheaply in stores.. that's why people don't all fork out for the equipment to brew hooch.
As I've said the issue will be with skunk that won't be included in the legalisation ( most likely) due to the difference in the THC and CBD levels.

I've ignored your straw man debate because it has no bearing on the discussion. To be honest with you Cherie is right you can be insulting in your replies to those you disagree with.. me for one, this thread is just one example. I'm not reaching, making a desperate argument or ignoring anything you say... I just have my own opinion and I just don't happen to agree with your view.

Cherie 12-08-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8059485)
Ah, you're just looking for a argument then. Typical.

Funny that you adding nothing to the topic but baiting remarks and insults aimed at me and you call that 'expressing a view' yet my posts, in which I've discussed this topic and posted very valid points is deemed 'baiting and insulting'.

Bit strange that.
Typical? Not really.

Tom4784 12-08-2015 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8059568)
Typical? Not really.
Hmm, I see you've got nothing useful to add to the topic so I'm just gonna ignore your blatant baiting attempts from now on.

Josy 12-08-2015 12:11 PM
Only people with little or no real experience of weed seem to be against legalising it.


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