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Marsh. 16-11-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8291739)
What I don't get about this is that, does anyone who believes in God actually think that those statements will come true if they say them? (I appreciate some have already said it's more a nervousness about tempting fate). Because I'm not a believer myself but if there is a God, I'm sure he wouldn't do something just because he's been dared. He's not 15.

This. :joker:

Marsh. 16-11-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8291721)
religions tell them that god listens to every prayer and that if you just have enough belief and loyalty to god he will give them what they want.

Then you need to broaden your religious research.

In all the years I've stepped foot in a church or sat in RE classes in school, not once have I been told that if I believe hard enough I will have my wishes/prayers granted. :joker:

Marsh. 16-11-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8291663)
and if he can create a universe then he can knock up a fecking dream home

He's not here to help you with your retrospective planning permission Mr Fiddler. :nono:

Also, asking for dream homes and money is so materialistic. :hmph:

Johnnyuk123 16-11-2015 02:11 PM

I Don't believe in anykind of god. Believers do like to say that God created everything then cherry pick it to death. Cos if in fact this so called God DID create EVERYTHING then he's to blame for the terrorists,all diseases and all the other bad things going on in the world.
But Santa is REAL.:joker:

Crimson Dynamo 16-11-2015 02:14 PM

I am agnostic about santa

Johnnyuk123 16-11-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8291868)
I am agnostic about santa

No presents for you then.:nono::joker::joker::joker:

Kazanne 16-11-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8291863)
I Don't believe in anykind of god. Believers do like to say that God created everything then cherry pick it to death. Cos if in fact this so called God DID create EVERYTHING then he's to blame for the terrorists,all diseases and all the other bad things going on in the world.
But Santa is REAL.:joker:

:nono: No Johnny you cant blame God for the evils men do, WE are to blame for the evils of the world no one else.

Marsh. 16-11-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8291863)
I Don't believe in anykind of god. Believers do like to say that God created everything then cherry pick it to death. Cos if in fact this so called God DID create EVERYTHING then he's to blame for the terrorists,all diseases and all the other bad things going on in the world.
But Santa is REAL.:joker:

Then do a little research about something called "free will".

Niamh. 16-11-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8291887)
:nono: No Johnny you cant blame God for the evils men do, WE are to blame for the evils of the world no one else.

Speak for yourself kazanne, I did **** all :idc:

Marsh. 16-11-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8291893)
Speak for yourself kazanne, I did **** all :idc:

You banned me more than once young lady. :nono: Don't think I don't know. :hmph:

Crimson Dynamo 16-11-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8291887)
:nono: No Johnny you cant blame God for the evils men do, WE are to blame for the evils of the world no one else.

and who made men in his own image?



:nono:

Ammi 16-11-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8291847)
Not really. She may be open to the possibility of a "God" but that doesn't make someone religious. She doesn't align herself to any religious denomination.

Belief =/= religious.

..one thing that I will say is that in my world, as in my home and work life, I'm very much surrounded by people of faith/many types of faith so I wouldn't feel at all as though I couldn't be open about my beliefs and wouldn't be deemed ignorant in any way at all or perceived negatively...and on the forum..?...well, my beliefs are not relevant at all to who I am so not necessary to speak about unless I choose to...

Ammi 16-11-2015 02:45 PM

...oh sorry Marsh, that was kind of meant to be to Alex as well....

Niamh. 16-11-2015 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8291896)
You banned me more than once young lady. :nono: Don't think I don't know. :hmph:

I would never :smug:

Ammi 16-11-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8291863)
I Don't believe in anykind of god. Believers do like to say that God created everything then cherry pick it to death. Cos if in fact this so called God DID create EVERYTHING then he's to blame for the terrorists,all diseases and all the other bad things going on in the world.
But Santa is REAL.:joker:

..I guess that he's like the company founder but then left people to oversee and work it for him..that's not meant to be glib but more how to look at it as well, for those who believe in him and like Kaz has said...it's how the belief of him is interpreted by some who choose to interpret it negatively and only negatively...

Ammi 16-11-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8291922)
I would never :smug:

..I would..:laugh:.../probably daily just for the LOLs...

kirklancaster 16-11-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8291893)
Speak for yourself kazanne, I did **** all :idc:

:laugh:

Marsh. 16-11-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8291929)
..I would..:laugh:.../probably daily just for the LOLs...

:fist:

Ashley. 16-11-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 8291406)
Most great scientists are religious, the 2 are NOT mutually exclusive. That's like saying do you believe in God or baking cakes? bizarre predictable, liberal illogical attention seeking nonsense. no offence...PS Jesus rocks!

They are very mutually exclusive.

kirklancaster 16-11-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8291925)
..I guess that he's like the company founder but then left people to oversee and work it for him..that's not meant to be glib but more how to look at it as well, for those who believe in him and like Kaz has said...it's how the belief of him is interpreted by some who choose to interpret it negatively and only negatively...

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Kizzy 16-11-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8291358)
Yes, the ARTICLE.

The article is about the study so the connection there is obvious. I haven't read the study itself so only have the article as a reference.

You did seem to be blaming the Guardian though I thought for simplifying belief...
I didn't really find that a fair point considering they didn't conduct the study, to condemn the guardian based on one report seem a little extreme.

It's not unusual for faith to be tested, when there are natural disasters and such many ask how did god allow this to happen. It's not negative to question belief it's quite healthy as you are able then to rationalise and reaffirm it once the shock of the disaster has passed.

user104658 16-11-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8291739)
What I don't get about this is that, does anyone who believes in God actually think that those statements will come true if they say them? (I appreciate some have already said it's more a nervousness about tempting fate). Because I'm not a believer myself but if there is a God, I'm sure he wouldn't do something just because he's been dared. He's not 15.

Read the Book of Job.

Or maybe he's matured since then? :shrug:

Marsh. 16-11-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8292012)
You did seem to be blaming the Guardian though I thought for simplifying belief...
I didn't really find that a fair point considering they didn't conduct the study, to condemn the guardian based on one report seem a little extreme.

It's not unusual for faith to be tested, when there are natural disasters and such many ask how did god allow this to happen. It's not negative to question belief it's quite healthy as you are able then to rationalise and reaffirm it once the shock of the disaster has passed.

I think you're misunderstanding what I was saying. :laugh:

I haven't mentioned anything about testing faith or questioning belief in general.

I was talking about the notion the article puts forward that "If you say ______ out loud you are an atheist, if you don't you are a believer". Silly simplification they are putting forward based on this 'study'.

Ninastar 16-11-2015 04:24 PM

I'm not even the slightest bit religious, but I have the utmost respect for those who do follow religion and I hate when people think its okay to make fun of them for that.

Johnnyuk123 16-11-2015 04:25 PM

I believe in Walt Disney.:laugh:
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