He was hilarious his first season:
-His "dry mouth" in the first episode
-Him telling everyone all the time he was a special agent
-Hunting for crabs
-Getting sent a bird feather
-His animal tattoos
:joker:
And this is without watching the season in years

Approximately zero of those things were funny.

He wasn't legit crazy though, he was acting

If he was an actual crazy person it may have been funny, but it was all acting in bad taste to me.

Sums up forums for you tbh

(I don't know who Phillip is, but I 99% likely agree with whatever JerseyWins is saying)

Yeah that's probably why

Probably why what? :unsure:

To go even further, his mindset was "I am consciously and admittedly trying to act crazy, but when you call me crazy, which, again, is what I am actively striving to be, that is as offensive as calling me the n-word so therefore you are racist. Also, did I mention that my great-great-great-great grandfather is Cherokee and thus I will wear a feather and channel his spirit because That's What Indians Do?"

Again, I would totally entertain the argument of his **** being more offensive than Colton's.

Not to mention his patronizing and bullying of every woman on his tribe, including his DEMAND that Ashley and Natalie donate half of their food rations to Grant because they are woman and he is a man and therefore he needs food more than they do.

Nah I think he's legit a crazy person though, regardless of him saying he was "acting" :joker:

It's like on the finale during the jury questioning when he calls someone a whiny child, but in reality that's him, like all the time, including at that moment. :joker:

New top 20 (Jay added plus a few small changes):

1. Tony Vlachos (Cagayan)
2. Woo Hwang (Cagayan; great in both but his #2 status was in Cagayan)
3. Malcolm Freberg (all)
4. Amanda Kimmel (all)
5. Cirie Fields (all)
6. Stephenie LaGrossa (all; in particular Palau)
7. Jonny Fairplay (Pearl Islands)
8. J.T. Thomas (Tocantins; all)
9. Ozzy Lusth (Cook Islands, South Pacific)
10. Rob Mariano (Redemption Island)
11. Corinne Kaplan (all)
12. Jay Starrett (MvGX)
13. Eliza Orlins (all)
14. Courtney Yates (China)
15. Troyzan Robertson (One World)
16. Brenda Lowe (all)
17. Parvati Shallow (Cook Islands; almost as good in her other two as well)
18. Shane Powers (Panama)
19. Sandra Diaz-Twine (all)
20. Vytas Baskauskas (Blood vs. Water)

Jay added in. Sugar bumped down a spot outside the top 20. </3

Hannah is somewhere from like the late 30's to 45 in my top 50 and David falls just outside of it but is like right on par with the people around #50.

It might be recency bias but I might put Jay even higher on my list when I think about it.

I was just watching some videos, including this one:



And it's just another example of him being a really good, genuinely caring person. There's a lot of raw emotion from Jay throughout the season (whether it's happy/sad/excited/mad - but he's also extremely positive) and I love that. :clap1: I really hope he returns.

1. Crystal Cox
2. Adam Klein
3. Christy Smith
4. Mike Holloway
5. Aubry Bracco
6. Phillip Sheppard
7. Jeremy Collins
8. Yauman Chan
9. Courtney Marit and Shane Powers together
10. Stephen Fishbach
11. Frosti Zernow
12. Ken Hoang
13. Taj Johnson-George
14. NaOnka Mixon
15. Christa Hastie
16. John Cochran
17. Trish Hegarty
18. Michaela Bradshaw
19. Debbie Warner
20. Matthew von Ertfelda

oh I forgot to add Tony Vlachos! Oops

Adam might be my favourite of all time :love:

(Up there with Kelley Wentworth anyway)

1.Rob Mariano
2.Parvati Shallow
3.Courtney Yates
4.Cirie Fields
5.Rob Cesternino
6.Peih-Gee Law
7.Yul Kwon
8.Natalie Anderson
9.J.T
10.Jerri Manthey
11.Sandra Diaz-Twine
12.Brenda Lowe
13.Adam Klein
14.Candice Cody
15.Aubry Bracco
16.Amanda Kimmel
17.Spencer Bledsoe
18.Tom Westman
19.Colleen Haskell
20.Abi-Maria Gomes

1. Rob Mariano
2. Russell Hantz
3. Mike Holloway
4. Richard Hatch
5. Jerri Manthey
6. Tina Wesson
7. Jonathan Penner
8. Ben "Coach" Wade
9. Colby Donaldson
10. Tyson Apostol
11. Yau-Man Chan
12. Dawn Meehan
13. Shirin Oskooi
14. Tasha Fox
15. Tom Westman
16. Ken McNickle
17. Tai Trang
18. Natalie White
19. Parvati Shallow
20. Sandra Diaz Twine (out of respect, not likability)

Not much change.

1. Tony Vlachos (Cagayan)
2. Woo Hwang (Cagayan; great in both but his #2 status was in Cagayan)
3. Malcolm Freberg (all)
4. Sandra Diaz-Twine (all)
5. Amanda Kimmel (all)
6. Cirie Fields (all)
7. Stephenie LaGrossa (all; in particular Palau)
8. Jonny Fairplay (Pearl Islands)
9. Rob Mariano (Redemption Island)
10. J.T. Thomas (Tocantins; all)
11. Ozzy Lusth (Cook Islands, South Pacific)
12. Corinne Kaplan (all)
13. Jay Starrett (MvGX)
14. Rodney Lavoie (Worlds Apart)
15. Courtney Yates (China)
16. Brenda Lowe (all)
17. Eliza Orlins (all)
18. Shane Powers (Panama)
19. Joe Mena (HvHvH) (I was hoping for more tbh, could see myself taking him out of the top 20 over time but still loved him :clap1:)
20. Troyzan Robertson (One World)

Updated list. Cut Parvati & Vytas out. Threw in Joe Mena & Rodney (who I had been criminally underrating since the start now that I thought about it).

1. Tony Vlachos (Cagayan)
2. Woo Hwang (Cagayan; great in both but his #2 status was in Cagayan)
3. Malcolm Freberg (all)
4. Amanda Kimmel (all)
5. Sandra Diaz-Twine (all)
6. Cirie Fields (all)
7. Dean Kowalski (IotI) --- he earned it on Finale x
8. Stephenie LaGrossa (all; in particular Palau)
9. Jonny Fairplay (Pearl Islands)
10. Rob Mariano (Redemption Island, Marquesas)
11. J.T. Thomas (all; in particular Tocantins)
12. Ozzy Lusth (Cook Islands, South Pacific)
13. Corinne Kaplan (all)
14. Rodney Lavoie (Worlds Apart)
15. Eliza Orlins (all)
16. Shane Powers (Panama)
17. Jay Starrett (MvGX)
18. Brenda Lowe (all)
19. Kelley Wentworth (Cambodia, EoE)
20. Troyzan Robertson (One World)

I'm cutting out TIBB fan-fave Courtney Yates. She's great but I think I was overrating her on this list a bit. She's not as special/memorable for me over time. But probably Top 25 (or 30 for sure).

Of the recent seasons, Wendell & Domenick are borderline top 20. I'm cutting Joe out of my top 20 as well but he's still close. I might put Parvati back in the top 20 right around 18-20 but it's tough/close. Got a few winners in my top 20 or close going into WaW so can't wait to see how this season plays out for them :fc:

1. Twila Tanner
2. Sue Hawk
3. Monica Culpepper
4. Shane Powers
5. Jerri Manthey
6. Sandra Diaz-Twine
7. Cirie Fields
8. Sean Rector
9. Kass McQuillen
10. Parvati Shallow
11. Angelina Keeley
12. Lillian Morris
13. Deena Bennett
14. Ami Cusack
15. Rupert Boneham
16. Susie Smith
17. Keith Nale
18. Courtney Yates
19. Frank Garrison
20. Trish Hegarty

1. Parvati Shallow
2. Sandra Diaz-Twine
3. Crystal Cox
4. Kass McQuillen
5. Michaela Bradshaw
6. Courtney Yates
7. Tony Vlachos
8. Taj Johnson-George
9. Cirie Fields
10. Jerri Manthey
11. Shambo Waters
12. Angelina Keeley
13. John Cochran
14. Kimmi Kappenberg
15. Kelley Wentworth
16. Abi-Maria Gomes
17. Michael Yerger
18. Natalie White
19. Natalie Cole
20. Russell Hantz