Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927240)

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. :p Hope he survives tonight.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8927274)

...well plus he's 'cute' as well, you know Mitch..:laugh:...

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8927261)

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8927250)

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though...:worship:...because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8927370)

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927376)

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927376)

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8927381)

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit :shrug:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927378)

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927382)

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927113)

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship :laugh:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927385)

No, not from one day to another.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8927387)

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927389)

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927391)

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927254)

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.