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Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9211082)
I posted that this afternoon, it means nothing, the silly rant about nothing will rumble on regardless, any reference to courts and juries are pointless and baseless.
The trust just don't want some alf garnettesque outbursts in their visitors centres, which is perfectly acceptable.

and you know it was this how?

Brillopad 08-02-2017 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9211335)
Yes my mother is in her 80s and she wouldn't dream voicing such ignorant views...
I do have an expectation for EVERYONE to follow the law as well as the codes of conduct for the organisations they represent.

Double standards.

DemolitionRed 08-02-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9211329)
No, that sounds different as he was being physically threatening. However the way that made you feel makes it difficult to remain unbiased on this in my opinion.

Not at all. I was surrounded by a lot of elderly people all waiting to see a doctor and they cheered me challenging him. I would never tar the elderly with the same brush as him.

Tom4784 08-02-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9211138)
Really, so you expect an old man in his seventies who grew up in a different time to move on in these progressive times but don't have the same expectation of Muslims who come here and refuse to move on from the sexist controlling ways they grew up with. Why is that no surprise!

What an ignorant example based on nothing more than pure hysteria. Do you believe all Muslims are sexist and abusive? Do you hold sweeping stereotypes about all religions as gospel or just the ones mostly followed by Arabic people?

Brillopad 08-02-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9211384)
What an ignorant example based on nothing more than pure hysteria. Do you believe all Muslims are sexist and abusive? Do you hold sweeping stereotypes about all religions as gospel or just the ones mostly followed by Arabic people?

Not hysteria, just what I see almost every day.

Tom4784 08-02-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9211396)
Not hysteria, just what I see almost every day.

More likely what you want to see with your broad judgement on an entire group of people.

Tozzie 08-02-2017 08:46 PM

I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

Brillopad 08-02-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 9211439)
I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

PC gave us Brexit at the end of the day because people have been pushed too far. PC is judgemental and oppressive - everything it accuses 'racists' of being. Pot and kettle. Free speech is only applicable to them and they are too far up their own A***s to see it.

Scarlett. 08-02-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9210520)
What is vile is trying to force others to think like they do. Free thought and personal opinion in a private conversation is a RIGHT. This is not a dictatorship.

The station have the right to not allow him into certain parts of the station if they so wish to do so, this report seems to be lacking in details, so its hard to actually say if he was in the wrong or right, but either way, the station has the right.

Scarlett. 08-02-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 9211439)
I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

While I didn't agree with Jade Goody's stupid thoughtless comments, I thought the way she was vilified for what she actually said was rather over the top, the hate she got was far worse than some silly little comment.

DemolitionRed 08-02-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9211499)
While I didn't agree with Jade Goody's stupid thoughtless comments, I thought the way she was vilified for what she actually said was rather over the top, the hate she got was far worse than some silly little comment.

There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

Scarlett. 08-02-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9211525)
There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

Pretty much, I think people just pinned it mainly on Jade, because she was the biggest name in the show at that point, what she did was wrong, but the backlash against her was way over the top. I remember at the time thinking Danielle Lloyd seemed to be the most horrible toward Shilpa.

user104658 08-02-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9211525)
There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

Yeah, the "Shilpa Poppadom" comment was really the least of what went on that year... although I agree, Jade took most of the flak for it (because of her higher profile at the time) when she wasn't the worst by far.

Kizzy 09-02-2017 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9211343)
and you know it was this how?

By reading the link in the OP.

Kizzy 09-02-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9211353)
Double standards.

:/ Where, I haven't stated any?

Niamh. 09-02-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9211533)
Yeah, the "Shilpa Poppadom" comment was really the least of what went on that year... although I agree, Jade took most of the flak for it (because of her higher profile at the time) when she wasn't the worst by far.

Yeah was about to say the same thing. It was a sort of the higher you are the harder you're going to fall type thing, no one even knew who Jack, Jades mom and Danielle were which is why Jade and Jo took most of the backlash.simply because they were known to the public more

Kizzy 09-02-2017 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9211467)
PC gave us Brexit at the end of the day because people have been pushed too far. PC is judgemental and oppressive - everything it accuses 'racists' of being. Pot and kettle. Free speech is only applicable to them and they are too far up their own A***s to see it.

Ah, PC is out for an airing... the nonsense non word that means nothing and everything in an attempt to give credence to a right wing perspective on anything...Without actually having to have the intelligence to form a credible opinion on any given topic.
Who are 'them' and why do you insult them?

Livia 09-02-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9210907)
So it isn't okay to disbelieve his version of events because they make no sense but it's fine to believe him when it allows you to take a pop at 'PC gone mad' bull****?

Dezzy, I have no idea what this means in relation to what I wrote.

Kizzy 09-02-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9211751)
Yeah was about to say the same thing. It was a sort of the higher you are the harder you're going to fall type thing, no one even knew who Jack, Jades mom and Danielle were which is why Jade and Jo took most of the backlash.simply because they were known to the public more

Well of course, if you are offensive to a national treasure on national television you are going to be the ones held to account, Imagine someone being offensive to Joanna Lumley on Indian TV There would be OUTRAGE!

Niamh. 09-02-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9211756)
Well of course, if you are offensive to a national treasure on national television you are going to be the ones held to account, Imagine someone being offensive to Joanna Lumley on Indian TV There would be OUTRAGE!

and rightly so Dahling :laugh:

Livia 09-02-2017 11:21 AM

Until there is testimony from the man in question it's all just conjecture. One group stands behind the accused without knowing what happened, one group stands behind the accusers without knowing what happened. We're all starting to make up our own version of events.

Livia 09-02-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9211758)
and rightly so Dahling :laugh:

Oooo bit racist...

Kizzy 09-02-2017 11:22 AM

I'm offended.

Tom4784 09-02-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9211754)
Dezzy, I have no idea what this means in relation to what I wrote.

It's fairly simple, Livia. You slated everyone for making their minds up about the story and then you ended your post with '"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto' which suggests that you are siding with the man which is exactly what you were slating everyone else for, perhaps even worse, given how unlikely his version of events are.

Niamh. 09-02-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9211760)
Oooo bit racist...

Typo TYPO

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