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Kazanne 11-06-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9353131)
But why wasn't this ever brought up before the situation arose - especially from the DUP and Sinn Fein. Didn't anyone think what would happen if either party was called to join an alliance with the government. All seems odd.

The DUP said they would never do a deal with Corbyn,i wonder why

Vicky. 11-06-2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9353447)
The DUP said they would never do a deal with Corbyn,i wonder why

Far right parties are hardly compatible with lefties :D

bots 11-06-2017 08:55 PM

I think its genuinely laughable that other parties moan at the tories using the DUP for support when it was their pig headedness in saying no deal with the tories that pushed the tories down that path.

They each had an opportunity to soften the edges of a tory government and stated they wouldn't under any circumstances prop them up.

It is disingenuous of them now to try and claim some sort of moral superiority

joeysteele 11-06-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9353499)
Far right parties are hardly compatible with lefties :D

Dead right.
It would be like the Cons doing a deal with the Socialist workers party,impossible.

joeysteele 11-06-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9353539)
I think its genuinely laughable that other parties moan at the tories using the DUP for support when it was their pig headedness in saying no deal with the tories that pushed the tories down that path.

They each had an opportunity to soften the edges of a tory government and stated they wouldn't under any circumstances prop them up.

It is disingenuous of them now to try and claim some sort of moral superiority


Not really.
Especially when the Cons have positioned themselves even to being further away from the Lib Dems now too.
On Brexit for instance,miles apart now.

The Greens,Plaid Cymru and the SNP all anti Con policy.

Maybe the Cons need to look at and question why just about all other Parties find them so abhorrent to deal with or support.
Apart from the DUP that is.

The Cons are fortunate in this election only in that the DUP did a little better in N.Ireland and moreso that Sinn Féinn largely replaced the SDLP, who would have taken seats at Westminster had they got MPs elected.

user104658 11-06-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9353447)
The DUP said they would never do a deal with Corbyn,i wonder why

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9352918)
Just heard the DUP would NEVER prop up Corbyn,why is that?

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9353108)
Is this a real question? :joker:

For exactly the same reasons that the SNP, Greens, Plaid etc. would never prop up the Conservatives. Complete political incompatibility.

The Lib Dems foolishly tried to in 2010 and it completely devastated their party.



Is there a reason you're asking this same question in multiple threads? You seem to be trying to make a point that doesn't exist... like "Ooooh the DUP must not trust him!!" or something.

There's no great mystery Kazanne. They wouldn't do a deal with Labour because their policies are incompatible. The same reason that the SNP wouldn't do a deal with the Tories.

DouglasS 11-06-2017 10:21 PM

I don't understand how Corbyn could rule as he would never be able to get a majority, as Conservatives have like 48 percent, and then the DUP the other 4 percent or so, so he'd always end up with less than what the Conservatives have by themselves even conjoined with all other parties

Mystic Mock 11-06-2017 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9353539)
I think its genuinely laughable that other parties moan at the tories using the DUP for support when it was their pig headedness in saying no deal with the tories that pushed the tories down that path.

They each had an opportunity to soften the edges of a tory government and stated they wouldn't under any circumstances prop them up.

It is disingenuous of them now to try and claim some sort of moral superiority

Who wants to get the Lib Dems treatment by the Media? The DUP are idiots as they'll get all of the blame for what the Tories are doing.

Mystic Mock 11-06-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 9353939)
I don't understand how Corbyn could rule as he would never be able to get a majority, as Conservatives have like 48 percent, and then the DUP the other 4 percent or so, so he'd always end up with less than what the Conservatives have by themselves even conjoined with all other parties

Conservatives polled about 43% whilst Labour got about 38 to 39% of the vote share, just add a few extra seats from other big parties and that percentage goes up.

Jack_ 11-06-2017 10:33 PM

This is so ****ing fake it's hysterical :joker: I'm pissing at the very idea of Tory ministers chatting on WhatsApp about how they need to 'serve the country', give me a ****ing break



More like how to dismantle the country

Greg! 11-06-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9353994)
This is so ****ing fake it's hysterical :joker: I'm pissing at the very idea of Tory ministers chatting on WhatsApp about how they need to 'serve the country', give me a ****ing break



More like how to dismantle the country

How convenient it was leaked at the exact same time Boris was being accused of plotting against Tezza :joker:

Jack_ 11-06-2017 10:43 PM

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Michael Gove MP
Boris is right

Conor Burns MP
Spot on Boris
FFS what an embarrassment of a party :laugh3:

King Gizzard 11-06-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9353994)
This is so ****ing fake it's hysterical :joker: I'm pissing at the very idea of Tory ministers chatting on WhatsApp about how they need to 'serve the country', give me a ****ing break



More like how to dismantle the country

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCC_SFUXcAAgEBv.jpg

Brillopad 12-06-2017 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9353539)
I think its genuinely laughable that other parties moan at the tories using the DUP for support when it was their pig headedness in saying no deal with the tories that pushed the tories down that path.

They each had an opportunity to soften the edges of a tory government and stated they wouldn't under any circumstances prop them up.

It is disingenuous of them now to try and claim some sort of moral superiority

Good point. Little cliques now.

Scarlett. 12-06-2017 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9353499)
Far right parties are hardly compatible with lefties :D

Hell, they're hardly even compatible with normal right wingers too :laugh:

Kizzy 12-06-2017 08:22 AM

'Supporters of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) are demanding Theresa May allow a banned loyalist march as part of an agreement by the Northern Irish party to prop up a minority Conservative government.

The Portadown Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL), who are currently prevented from marching in the flashpoint Gavaghy Road following a long history of sectarian violence, put out a statement amid speculation as to what concessions the DUP could demand in return for striking a deal with the Tories.'

How can anyone suggest that aligning with the DUP would not look like condoning terrorism?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7785026.html

user104658 12-06-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9354357)
The Portadown Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL), who are currently prevented from marching in the flashpoint Gavaghy Road following a long history of sectarian violence, put out a statement amid speculation as to what concessions the DUP could demand in return for striking a deal with the Tories.'

I really don't think any of this is funny, Kizzy :(

Kizzy 12-06-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9354362)
I really don't think any of this is funny, Kizzy :(

I was going to mention it...But I didn't want to be THAT guy. :hehe:

user104658 12-06-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9354368)
I was going to mention it...But I didn't want to be THAT guy. :hehe:

I'm comfortable being that guy.

Kizzy 12-06-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9354371)
I'm comfortable being that guy.

:cheer2::cheer2:

Crimson Dynamo 12-06-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9354357)
'Supporters of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) are demanding Theresa May allow a banned loyalist march as part of an agreement by the Northern Irish party to prop up a minority Conservative government.

The Portadown Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL), who are currently prevented from marching in the flashpoint Gavaghy Road following a long history of sectarian violence, put out a statement amid speculation as to what concessions the DUP could demand in return for striking a deal with the Tories.'

How can anyone suggest that aligning with the DUP would not look like condoning terrorism?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7785026.html

Why cant they march peacefully there?

is that place some kind of area of special interest?


I am sure that the people in that area can just turn up the telly for half an hour like any normal person would, or perhaps go out to visit a relative?

user104658 12-06-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9354373)
Why cant they march peacefully there?

is that place some kind of area of special interest?


I am sure that the people in that area can just turn up the telly for half an hour like any normal person would, or perhaps go out to visit a relative?

Yeah! Stupid "troubles" nonsense, why didn't they just turn up The X Factor :fist:. So many lives could have been saved. Where were you then, LT? Where were you then??

Crimson Dynamo 12-06-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9354374)
Yeah! Stupid "troubles" nonsense, why didn't they just turn up The X Factor :fist:. So many lives could have been saved. Where were you then, LT? Where were you then??

sorry is it illegal to play musical instruments and walk in the street now

did i miss the memo?

Kizzy 12-06-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9354373)
Why cant they march peacefully there?

is that place some kind of area of special interest?


I am sure that the people in that area can just turn up the telly for half an hour like any normal person would, or perhaps go out to visit a relative?

Oh the break from your trolling was wonderful :laugh:

joeysteele 12-06-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9354357)
'Supporters of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) are demanding Theresa May allow a banned loyalist march as part of an agreement by the Northern Irish party to prop up a minority Conservative government.

The Portadown Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL), who are currently prevented from marching in the flashpoint Gavaghy Road following a long history of sectarian violence, put out a statement amid speculation as to what concessions the DUP could demand in return for striking a deal with the Tories.'

How can anyone suggest that aligning with the DUP would not look like condoning terrorism?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7785026.html


It's a flashpoint area,one of several and the pathetic orange order do NOT just want to march down there,they want to deliberately bait and taunt as they do so.

I can see the DUP making some demands on this,tge orange order and lodges are firmly embedded in the DUP.

Major issues are possibly going to be stirred up with any deal with the bigots that are the DUP.
This has to affect not only the other Parties in N Ireland,also though voters in N Ireland, particularly the Catholic residents of whom most must be getting more suspicious by the hour.

This could easily inflame old issues and threaten even for a time, the hard won and longed for peace process.
This stupid PM we have,for her own greed and arrogance who called this unnecessary election,may yet end up creating even greater division across the UK.
Even moreso resurrect the old hate and distrust in N Ireland now too.

I say again however and if I had influence I'd implore them to do so, I wish Sinn Féinn would come to cast their votes at Westminster.
At a stroke that would wipe out most of the advantage gained by the Cons bringing in the DUP,making the votes in Parliament even tighter.


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