Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9371272)

Got to lock this extremist preacher up.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9370871)

Exactly.You made my point for me.The point is that he's emphasising this guys skin colour.He would never do that if it was a person of Arabic/Pakistani/African descent

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9371315)

The guy is a terrorist, white people can be terrorists too, you know.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9371272)

Got to lock this extremist preacher up.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9371242)

That's because almost every terrorist atrocity in the world is committed by a Muslim.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9371327)

we have no idea at the moment as we do not know if the man had any political aims

at the moment, unless you know otherwise, he is a guy who injured some people in a late night incident in London which appears to be due to a hatred of muslims but that has not been fully established. The man is not known to the security service and no group has claimed responsibility.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9371252)

I mean terrorist bombs at public events right across the world. I mean flying planes into sky scrapers. I mean people stabbing and ramming people with motor vehicles. I mean shooting people, laying landmines, suicide bombers... these are all labelled correctly as terrorist acts. Look at the FBI's top ten most wanted terrorists, they are all Muslim.

I absolutely deplore what happened last night... but lets get some perspective. It's not more terrible because it was a white man, it was equally terrible. And if you want to look at the death count so far between Muslim extremists in this country and far right lunatics, you'll find the Muslim extremists are winning by quite a stretch.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9371398)

don't disagree on not knowing motive etc, but the PM has labelled it a terrorist attack, so thats what I will go with for the moment.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9371311)

No, they'd do that by emphasing that he was a muslim in that case.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9371431)

Because Islam(or being a muslim) is relevant to the motive of the attack.I.E 'Islamist extremist'.

Being white is not relevant.
Terrorists can be white too you know.

Maybe he should be described as a far right extremist or terrorist.

Now do you think the media would say something like 'A brown man aged 48 has been arrested' because that's what the BBC did earlier only saying "white" instead.
What relevance is his skin colour?

Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 9371424)

It's a horrible incident, but it's not terrorism if lacks a political motive and continuity, which seems to be the case.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9371485)

Here's some food for thought, what constitutes a 'hate preacher?'

Could hopkins, farage and certain media outlets be comparable?

'Ukip’s “Breaking Point” poster, showing a queue of refugees and migrants which was used during the EU referendum campaign, was reported to police last June over claims that it incited racial hatred.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7797166.html

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9371497)

er no

its just bored multi millionaire author JK Rowling virtue signalling for likes as her star fades...

hardly worth an article unless you are a fading once newspaper who resorts to clickbait to pay the mortgage

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9371504)

I say she's got a point..

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9371473)

If a muslim yelled something like 'Allahu Akbar' during their attack, that is terrorism but if someone who has just attempted to kill a bunch of muslims say 'I want to kill muslims' then that isn't terrorism?

Where is the logic in that?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9371509)

i say she is talking bollocks as per

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9371516)

Says the internet troll :hehe:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9371396)

That's just not true in the west is it?

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9371534)

Tbf, Rowlings opinion on anything far exceeds the average intelligence and morality of most politicians and celebs. It doesnt matter which paper picks them up to me. If shes got something interesting to say, her words should be shared. Its almost as if people want others to stop posting on tibb or sumin :shrug:

In response to her, I would always presume that hate preachers targetted a specific group and praised their own.. so under my definition, I dont think Hopkins suits. She hates so many people, including people she would probably consider part of her own ingroup. Farage is questionable though.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9371547)

Tbf, Rowlings opinion on anything far exceeds the average intelligence and morality of most politicians and celebs.

let me guess why..because she says things you agree with?

unless you have another reason?