your facts are false. the chance sof it happening are huge 188000 fake accusations per year in the uk alone. I really hope if it happens you show them more support than youre showing innocent male victims on this thread. Be a good idea to show them this thread, no doubt theyd side with you through loyalty , but they may learn something about the enormous dangers facing innocent men

But this isn't true. Why do you keep saying this?

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This is were I stand, if your guilty of rape you need to go to prison, if you are a woman and you falsely accuse someone of rape you need to go to prison.

Do mistakes happen?, yes
Is life cruel most of the time?,yes

Well I think everyone would agree with this.

I would hope anyway.

Theres something I can agree with.

I think the sentences for rape and falsely accusing (both need to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt though) should be the same, and much harsher than the pitiful sentences that are given at the moment. Maybe it will be more of a deterrent.

Cautions given for rape are just disgusting. Sentences given are usually pitiful too.

goodness me we are in danger of reaching a consensus that both parties need better protection and wrong doers need bigger punishments

I don't think anyone would ever argue with that tbh. Its just when fictitious stats are brought out to 'prove' that there are more liars than rapists that people feel the need to argue.

I called a truce you just want to argue for the sake of it now, which says a lot. The facts I supplied and wii supplied which you call lies, were all 100% true you just choose to interpret them differently , 188000 cases are chucked out a year...carry on arguing with yourself lol

Oh give yer head a wobble lad.

Chucked out does not mean the accuser lied though, as we have already been over :shrug:

I will continue to argue against this. Yes. As long as you continue perpetrating the myth that 'loads' of women lie about rape.

Agreeing on one issue, does not mean I have to agree on all the other bollocks you have spouted in this thread.

more vile abuse and lies, do you show this to your family too? I see I shall report your personal abuse and it will of course be ignored
188000 cases are chucked out every year in the UK, 188000 men are accused , named and shamed by anonymous women with none or vastly insufficent evidence or thousands based purely on lies in this country every year. Thats a fact you cant lie your way out of it.

Vile abuse :joker:

Yes, vile abuse to point out that you have repeatedly talked bollocks in this thread.

Oh dear...

Please do report it. Hopefully it will bring admin to check out the thread, and maybe they will finally agree that you are a woman hating troll who posts only to wind people up...as if this is NOT the case you are a scary individual with disgusting views that should never be tolerated.

If they showed some balance they would see you as an abusive lying misandrist
I really hope you dont show your posts to your boys

My husband read this thread actually when he asked why I was banging my keyboard like a mad woman, and he thinks you are a woman hating prick too.

My brother is in Liverpool but I can send him the link too if you like?

My son is only 3 so doesn't know about any of this yet, thankfully. I am bringing him up to be respectful of women and to respect their boundaries also. To believe in true equality. He wont be a woman-hating misogynist like you when he grows up, thats for sure.

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You talk BOLLOCKS.

DRAG HIM Victoria!

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oh wow, every time i log into this site all i see are these tedious arguments in sd&n

on forum about an irrelevant channel 5 reality show no less

seriously who gives a ****, just ban everyone who starts these tragic "debates" and get a bit of positivity around here

or just delete the serious debates forum

I've seriously made this suggestion multiple times in Tibb Towers.