Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683169)

Yeah, but the stats aren't very informative.

I can name countless types of people that have never won or made the final, but BB (especially in the last 6 years) is very narrow in its choice of housemate so you're definitely going to see patterns in the types of people that prove popular and the ones that don't.

Is there irrefutable evidence that the viewers will not allow black women to win? No, not really.

You put 9 out of 10 white people in a house with a black person, and how likely is it the black person will win? An even slimmer chance when 50% of them are floaters.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683171)

The difference here being Raph thinks of himself highly enough to arrogantly claim to be the real winner, who was robbed of the title due to prejudice.

Rather than Isabelle simply being a more popular person.

Raph isn't in the best position to be making that kind of claim. He's biased as the person "robbed" of the winning title.

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683183)

Can't really predict this stuff but who knows, but things happen and get judged differently and a black female never winning is going to get people discussing, yes Raph talks about this and did stats about it but he isn't the only one like Vicky said it's common on tibb, Pete even made a thread about it and people agreed with what he said.



Raph never said he was the rightful winner he was talking about Deborah as i said. The isabelle issue is recent months later and it seems it's mostly Chanelle who has the bigger issue with Isabelle. So her winning being an issue seems unlikely

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683189)

"WE defied all odds"

What odds did he defy exactly?

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9683197)

Raph's the only (partially) Asian-American male to have even been on the show, there weren't any "odds" for him to defy

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683194)

you have to ask him, first asian american male to be final 2 who knows idk, not going to assume stuff because it could not be true and some fans like bb odds stuff but what Raph says is an opinion hold by some of TIBB and it's no big deal and i guess you will have to wait to see if this Isabelle stuff is actually true and keep an eye on their twitters for more and they all still follow each other.

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9683202)

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9683203)

I think you'll find that Mandy defied the odds by being the first ever randy person to be evicted first

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9683202)

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9683202)

There’s been a person of colour or people of colour in the final 3 more so than not and also the first evictee is usually white so Tracy Beaker shut ya big fat gob!

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9683204)

And Marco being the first son of a celebrity chef to be evicted first I mean talk about going against the stats

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683208)

because most of the cast are white

but this was a diverse season and Deborah did tell Hannah they beat the stats etc and the odds did break by Hannah not getting evicted on VTE when some of tibb think she was obviously going.

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683208)

because most of the cast are white

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683212)

Not surprising in a country that is 80% white.

A black person making the final 3 more often than not is more impressive than it sounds.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683212)

Not surprising in a country that is 80% white.

A black person making the final 3 more often than not is more impressive than it sounds.

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9683215)

Let’s face it anyway it’s better to be iconic than win

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683216)

Makosi
Gina
Deborah
Brian

4/18 not really often. A black female winning will be big deal on tibb which was going to be Lateysha and by super fans international.

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9683219)

What kind of Darren and Adam shade?

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683220)

6/18 then :oh:

i forgot about them

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683220)

6/18 then :oh:

i forgot about them

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9683216)

Makosi
Gina
Deborah
Brian
Adam
Darren

6/18 not really often. A black female winning will be big deal on tibb which was going to be Lateysha and by super fans international.