Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9811933)

No need for your patronising emojis or 'clues'. They come across like cheap air freshener trying to hide the big verbal turd you just laid.

Let's look at the facts.

You just made the negative statement 'look at you, getting all straight white male on us' when i pointed out the recent rise in anti-white hate crime.

What do you mean 'getting all straight white male'?

Clearly you meant that in a negative way, no doubt about that.
As if being 'straight, white male' is a 'bad thing' somehow in your mind.

So to help you see the bigotry of your own statement, let's flip it around.

Let's imagine you had pointed out a statistic regarding anti-black hate crime.

Then imagine another person responded with:
'look at you, getting all gay black female on us!'

You see the obvious bigotry when it's that way round, right?

It's all negative stereotyping. Not cool.

I'm an equalist.
To me, anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight comments like yours are EQUALLY as objectionable as anti-black, anti-female, and anti-gay comments are by anyone else.

But maybe you are unequal in your logic.
Maybe you think it's ok to be negative about 'straight white males'?
Maybe you think it's ok to stereotype ONE race, ONE gender, ONE sexuality - but not others?

If so then THAT, my patronising friend, is what we call bigotry:
Racist, sexist and anti-straight bigotry.

My advice?:

Aim for ACTUAL equality and intellectual consistency on these subjects or you are no better than the racists of this world.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9811942)

:clap1:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811953)

Poor white people. :(

Non-white people have never had it so good.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9811957)

Go back on topic please .. Thank you :flowers:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811948)

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811970)

I just responded to a post you're agreeing with. So it's very much on topic.

Oh wait... by on topic you mean agree with you don't you? :pat:

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9811971)

Then let that inspire you into realising that bigotry is wrong - whether it's aimed at gay, black trans-people or at straight white males.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9811977)

That would never happen, you never agree with anyone

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811984)

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811984)

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

God, black people don't have to deal with this level of bigotry.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9812018)

The only bigotry here is from YOU, when you said

'Look at you getting all straight white male on us'

That is a negative, bigoted, stereotypical statement about straight, white males no matter who said it or what colour they are.

You don't like it when i point that out.

Which is why you keep squirming.

Own it.

And move on.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9812018)

The only bigotry here is from YOU, when you said

'Look at you getting all straight white male on us'

That is a negative, bigoted, stereotypical statement about straight, white males no matter who said it or what colour they are.

You don't like it when i point that out.

Which is why you keep squirming.

Own it.

And move on.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9811811)

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9811811)

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9812023)

Yes, squirming, that's what I'm doing. :joker:

How very straight white male of you to get so defensive when you try to dismiss the struggles of minority groups. Shame on you.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9812042)

The shame is all yours my friend.

I AM the one who made points in this thread about EQUAL treatment for all.

YOU are the one making bigoted statements.

ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT. Just re-read our posts.

So squirm, project, deny all you like.

But YOU are the bigot.

END OF

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9812042)

And back you go, 360 degrees with yet another example of your anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight negative stereotyping.

The shame is all yours my friend.

I AM the one who made points in this thread about EQUAL treatment for all.

YOU are the one making bigoted statements.

ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT. Just re-read our posts.

So squirm, project, deny all you like.

But YOU are the bigot.

END OF

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811948)

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811984)

Yes I have offended myself, a straight white male, by insinuating that you are a straight white male. Even though it appears you are, in fact, a straight white male.

God, black people don't have to deal with this level of bigotry.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9811731)

A lot of the time he loads Andrews gun and sits back and observes while Andrew fires his bullets for him,but Andrew is to dim to see Shanes game and last night he had the cheek to call Jonny uneducated !

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9811948)

In short: I have a cousin who's gay, black and transgender.