Except the wage gap isn't a myth, it's something that's been proven to exist time and time again.

The most powerful people in the country doesn't change things for the millions of other women in the country, leadership roles in most industries are still dominated by men, business is still mostly male dominated etc. There's more opportunities for men then there are women.

Sexual abuse can affect both sexes but women are still way more likely to be affected by it

Yes, all the sexual harassment business of the past year has just come down to cat calling. Good god. Sexual harassment is the pressurising of a person into a sexual situation, whether that be by unwanted advances or comments or leading a person into a sexual situation through false pretences. It's a problem, like with sexual assault, that women have to deal with way more than men.

I reject the idea that you are an egalitarian, why aren't you denouncing all the advantages men get in favour of pretending that feminism isn't needed when it obviously is just because you have a problem with the few advantage society allows women to have. It's the same argument that people have against Pride parades or Black History month.

Nothing you have said has really made me believe that you care about equality at all.

Ok last post I’ll make on this hungry af

A lot of the things mentioned aren’t feminist/sexism issues. The wage gap is debatable but the statistics usually are misleading and don’t account for other external factors. Sexual abuse is bad people doing bad things to other people, not men doing bad things to women. The current Hollywood situation is bad, but harvey weinstein is not all men, it is an issue but it’s not reflective of day to day life and all normal people; men get sexually abused a lot it’s just not talked about mainly because men are taught early on to reserve their feelings and not show emotion, because if they are they are laughed at, and I’ve never seen a feminist vouch for this issue hmm. Abortion is something women are voting on too it’s not just ‘men are impressing our bodies hngg’ and anyway on the flip side if aborting becomes illegal the individual carrying the baby can just give birth put the responsibility of the child on the father and make him pay all the expenses!!!

I mean we can go in circles debating feminism on a big brother forum but let’s just agree to disagree

Loving these smackdowns by Niamh

You go girl :clap1:

Yes it is.

Thank you. You too.

Let’s all love each other tho there are enough bad things in this world <3

Like Andrew brady

I agree that the rates of sexual abuse against women being higher isn't necessarily a feminist issue (it's an issue... just not a feminist one). I think it often gets treated as one because women make up the majority of victims but I think that's better explained by sexuality rather than sexism or attitudes, as in most abusers are men and most men are straight. If the sexuality of abusers was 50/50 gay/straight then I think the rates of sexual abuse between men and women would also be equal but that's not reality (and nothing to do with sexism). So the real question is why are men more likely to be sexual abusers and I think nature probably plays a big part in that (although I don't really know enough about it tbh).

Mate, I'm forty-fkin'-seven. I have every tee-shirt going :laugh: Naïve went out of my world about 30 years ago :joker:

No feminist either. Equality yes.

I want Daniel to win FFS!

Ok then :joker: Sorry my mistake :)

misogyny i feel plays a HUGE part in it

Not really.

If misogyny was the reason behind someone sexually abusing some else though then men wouldn't be victims of it, it follows a pattern of straight men abusing women and gay men abusing other men. I suppose misogyny could be a factor, like I said I don't know all the facts I'm just assuming really, but it just seems to make more sense to me that the rates are what they are because of sexuality.

Honestly it may have something to do with nature, definitely not totally unplausible. I’d like to think that most people in the first world surpress natural urges when it’s at the expense at another person tho however.

And tbh sexual abuse and rape is a bit of a grey area. A lot of people that have been abused, both men and women, don’t speak up about it in fear of being ridiculed or being seen as less of a person. Rape is also a difficult crime to prove. If there are no noticeable scars or anything. Two people can claim rape, one genuine the other not, both have no physical harm to prove it so how do you distinguish if they’re legitimate? I think in this case for a lot of cases involving women abuse people get accused of victim blaming if they don’t believe the victim ykno so this can lead to a lot of false accusations. Again it’s all a bit of a grey area so liek ykno

Sometimes it does come across like she's overdoing it.
The time when she wanted to let Jess talk about Page 3 and saying later that she wanted "to empower a fellow woman", like it's some sort of a disability that requires empowerment - hoping on the feminist train to nowhere. A bit like a walking facebook post of inspirational quotes.