I didn't cobble anything together ,I'm going by what I've read . I know he denied 1 allegation but he said he has gone too far . He's not a serial rapist but it sounds like he's been pestering women .

Nobody is saying he should wear a millstone of shame :facepalm:, why are you defending him so much?. And I didn't say women don't get told off but it's not treated as serious as when a man is accused. And the reason this has come out more publicly is because of the Oxfam scandal .

And you know I'm right as majority of sexual harassment claims are against men, and people forget women sexually harass and overstep the line as well .

No where near as much as men do though

ive actually seen some pretty outrageous behaviour from women over the years, it's maybe not done aggressively, but it's there just the same

I'm inclined to agree, but just think about something . If a man cried sexual harassment every time a woman touched him without his permission or tried to grab a kiss again without his permission then I think they'd be quite a few allegations .

But men don't complain or if they do it's not treated as sexual harassment. Plus some are embarrassed and just laugh it off .

On a drunken night out women can blame booze for getting frisky with a man who's clearly not interested, a man can't blame booze as he'll still be called a pervert :bored: .

You ever been to wales?

Yes that's exactly what I said, you cobbled it together based on what you've read in the media on this issue.
I'm defending him due to the pitchfork waving going on at the moment, it's ridiculous yes, it's in part due to the Oxfam expose which is why I feel this re visitation of an incident 3yrs previous is unnecessary it's not like he denied it then he admitted it and left his post as did his boss it was splashed across the nationals... where is the benefit bringing it up again just to ruin his life?.. Damage the charities that do so much good work?.. what?

Nobody forgets women can harass men, as I said organisations don't have gender specific policies in relation to that so what that has to do with this discussion I don't know.

In my experiences this happens alot more with men to women

Did you say the same when trump was accused?

He is on tape saying he grabs pussy... so no I didn't, he admitted sexual assault there's a difference :/

not sure why you are defending this sleaze bag?

Yes it happens...what's your point in relation to this or were you just stating the obvious?

Sticking your thumb in someones mouth whilst grabbing at their tits and ass is also sexual assault so im calling blatant hypocricy on you.

I've explained it, if you can't understand me then I can't help you.

Show me the quote of the person in question stating that is what happened, or him admitting he did those things specifically.

But Niamh you're forgetting at one time a man could be flirtatious with a woman and ask her out for a drink, now he'll probably be accused of "sexual harassment" :bored: it's the sad truth.

I'm not saying this happens all the time ,but how many women must of had cocky guys try to pursue them for sex and they simply just knock them back and that's the end of it . But today those incidents are brought up by people saying something like "I was sexually harassed back in 1978 etc etc " :facepalm: .

It takes away the seriousness of actual rape victims and proper sexual harassment.

Maybe your explanation is flawed as quite a few people are bewildered by your bizarre stance?

:shrug:

So Kizzy do you want a full confession by Brendan on tape ?? :facepalm: .
maybe he has admitted to loads of things but outside the media .

Whats the point, your biased opinion would be the same, pure and simply for his labour connection.

He isnt on tape saying he grabs pussys at all..thats a blatant lie.:nono:

Yes, me too - that he's a dirty pig.

It clearly shows he's guilty either way , but I think some people want concrete tape confessions :rolleyes: .

No I don't.

I think Kizzy is pointing out some hypocrisy here.
That Cox has said he has overstepped the mark but he has also strenuously denied, more serious allegations.
While some others who were forced to leave their positions on the other political side,who got nothing like the acidic comments Cox is getting.
Yet they are still denying doing anything wrong.

It is not actually my place or yours in fact,to talk about other members to another member.
You have chosen so to do with me so I trust Kizzy will now not mind when I clearly state,I think for her views,the vitriol she gets here when she posts,is beyond a joke now.

Oh dear..

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/s...-a3771331.html

Don't seem to remember this level of understanding being shown to Michael Fallon :think:

I've never seen a case yet where someone's taken to court for being flirtatious