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Chrizzle 27-05-2007 07:08 PM

Cos Ofcom hate BB dont they?
They want it to be axed.

Saying that its just Ofcoms fault. Its the girls and Endemol.

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:10 PM

But they had the chance last year with the Jodi Marsh bullying thing and they didn't.

Why do it now and not then?

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
If only they could have behaved like decent people
You will have to meet some everyday people in the flesh to work that one out. That is where the word, "realists" comes into play. Jade Goody is a girl who is streetwise and you know Eastenders and what some of them soap characters are like. Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd are just like Jade Goody. Very decent people who speak their mind and that's that.

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If they had kept the race issue out of it may be OFCOM wouldn't have got so many complaints and we wouldn't be in this situation.
Well that is due to petty complainants who just like complaining and stuff. Ofcom have acted, because someone has informed them, that is better to get to the bottom of this.

Right now, they are looking at Channel 4 & Endemol????

But you say Jade, Jo & Danielle????

Lucky I read it right:rolleyes:






nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:20 PM

But would people complained about the girls if the girls hadn't done what they did?

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
But would people complained about the girls if the girls hadn't done what they did?

The three girls:- Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd went into the CBB house & were looking forward to a great, great show.

Jade Goody was very wealthy & did not need the money, but does enjoy doing these types of shows. When the opportunity came along and they invited her family & boyfriend too, she accepted the offer.

Danielle Lloyd was also offered the opportunity and is a stunning and beautiful young woman, who was & is in great demand as a model. But once again, she was happy to take the offer.

Jo O'Meara was in a little bit of trouble financially and decided to do the show, as she needed the money to keep her house payments up. She has said that herself. But she went for it and was very happy to see her friend Ian 'h' Watkins from Steps.

Suddenly, an Indian Bollywood actress entered the house and the three girls just did not like her. Not at all:yuk::yuk:

It was nothing to do with race or colour of skin. It was just a case of "not clicking".

The three girls said some words & comments which were construed to some as containing possible racial over-tones.

As Endemol chose to keep those words & comments in and they also chose to zone in on all of this material, it was made to look much worse than it was. This then, caused the racial furore.

Regardless of what was said, it was the way it was presented. The form of presentation.

What Ofcom is doing, is, teaching them a big lesson.

They have picked the closest possible time for the new upcoming BB8 show and making sure, that this show is going to be as un-profitable as ever.

It can be nice for some to try & work it all out, who is & isn't to blame.

But, I would look at Ofcom.

Look at who is apologising

Then draw your conclusions from facts and stop blaming Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd who were just housemates. Ordinary housemates, no more, or, no less than Shilpa Shetty herself.

An argument, is an argument.

Comments are Comments. If they contain possible racial overtones, then edit them out and point it out privately.

It is like a forum. When someone makes a mistake, a simple U2U explaining what that person as done, can be better than issuing a 24 hour ban, which to some, can be easier. It is about patience, knowledge & understanding.

Something I have:eureka:






nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:41 PM

So that is a yes then?

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
So that is a yes then?
You'll have to read the thread-Red:spin2:

Politicians never give simple yes/no answers.







nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:48 PM

So it is yes.

I have read the thread.

ashleytisdale 27-05-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by mcq
sounds rubbish lol
lool yea sounds rubish. but they had to take out housemates that would start arguments with/ bully other housemates:angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by ashleytisdale
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Originally posted by mcq
sounds rubbish lol
lool yea sounds rubish. but they had to take out housemates that would start arguments with/ bully other housemates:angel:
Because of what the girls did in the house during Celebrity Big Brother 5. If they hadn't done the things they did we would be discussing this now.

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Chrizzle
Cos Ofcom hate BB dont they?
They want it to be axed.

Saying that its just Ofcoms fault. Its the girls and Endemol.

Listen Chris to something very, very true.

Channel 4 make plenty of money from other programmes which get aired all year round.

Endemol own "Deal Or No Deal" & others too. Big Brother is something which has made them a lot of money over the years and sadly, even shows which have made plenty of money in the past

If a show doesn't continue in that direction, it will be axed or sold off.

Selling the show off, might be a possibility for time to come. It all depends on how BB8 works out and also the ratings too. Which is everything.

Endemol can easily get together with some new writers for another show, with another name, which has a similar theme to BB and make money from that.

Anything is possible at this stage.





nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 08:03 PM

I did and I answered it.

No changing the subject.

If the girls hadn't done what they had done we wouldn't be in this postion now.

Either that statement is correct or not correct.

J.C. 27-05-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
I did and I answered it.

No changing the subject.

If the girls hadn't done what they had done we wouldn't be in this postion now.

Either that statement is correct or not correct.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.

Red Moon 27-05-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by J.C.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.
I agree that it could have happened in the past over fight night in Big Brother 5 had it been shown in full, which it wasn't. You have to remember not all the girls said and did wasn't shown too and this time the editing team got it wrong because of the nature of the incident. In both case the police were invovled.

But that is the past and we are talking about the present situation here.

J.C. 27-05-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Quote:

Originally posted by J.C.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.
I agree that it could have happened in the past over fight night in Big Brother 5 had it been shown in full, which it wasn't. You have to remember not all the girls said and did wasn't shown too and this time the editing team got it wrong because of the nature of the incident. In both case the police were invovled.

But that is the past and we are talking about the present situation here.
True, but I feel they have been pushing the limits for a while now and when they started making bad mistakes like the Nikki return etc I lost confidence in them being able to make good decisions.In truth I'm not sure any group can keep total order in this type of environment without BB stepping in. I mean where would Emma and Victor have ended up if left in the cage together .If it's not racism or violence it will be some other extreme situation....that if left to run, will run out of control.
There is still no doubt that the reason we are here in this position right now is because of girls behavior and the fact that it was edited in the form of car crash tv.
Interesting that it happened in year 7. I believe this is the time when power is supposed to go to one's head. I'm told that this is why presidents and some head teachers are only allowed a maximum 8yr term !!

Red Moon 27-05-2007 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by J.C.
True, but I feel they have been pushing the limits for a while now and when they started making bad mistakes like the Nikki return etc I lost confidence in them being able to make good decisions.In truth I'm not sure any group can keep total order in this type of environment without BB stepping in. I mean where would Emma and Victor have ended up if left in the cage together .If it's not racism or violence it will be some other extreme situation....that if left to run, will run out of control.

There is still no doubt that the reason we are here in this position right now is because of girls behavior and the fact that it was edited in the form of car crash tv.
Interesting that it happened in year 7. I believe this is the time when power is supposed to go to one's head. I'm told that this is why presidents and some head teachers are only allowed a maximum 8yr term !!
We as viewers want more and more from the show, I feel that is why the producers fly closer to the wind with each series. At some point things were going to go to far. In CBB5 they got the mix of house mates so wrong for our entianment. Letting in Gobby was a mistake just like letting Nikki back. It wasn't good for Nikki to be shown the way she was in the final. It wasn't good for Gobby to be back in the house and say the things she did and encourage the others. Like you say you can't ever have complete control over the house mates and mistakes were made.

But like we have both been saying the girls did what they did and here we are for all the faults by the producers. The producers played their part to in the editing, but if the girls hadn't said what they did then things would have been okay. That can't be taken back. It's done and they said what they said. We can only acknowledge what has happened and live with the outcome. We have to remember that people are responsible for what they do and say and can't hide behind other people. It is brave person that admit there mistakes and learn by thems. It is the fools that blame others.

arista 28-05-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Well they had to do something after Jade and Co. to make sure it didn't happen again. They have to make sure they have done all they can so OFCOM doesn't come down on them again. I just hope it doesn't spoil the show.


I hope they Evict one fast
as a Nasty Example.

Then replace the person.


Endemol should not wait
so bleedin' long before putting in new housemates.

Sam 28-05-2007 11:40 AM

I hope it changes to vote to stay this series

Lil-Lindz 28-05-2007 11:51 AM

Well even if this rule does change, which wouldn't be surprising, i dont think it will change the show that much, sure there will be less arguements :bawling:, but BB cannot control the housemates the occasional outburst is only expected in such a confined environment.
I just hope that these rules are not true, allthough i still expect BB to step in sooner should an arguement arise

Sam 28-05-2007 12:03 PM

Thing is, any argument that happens is going to be over exaggerated and will be seen as bullying now, its ridiculous

Lil-Lindz 28-05-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sam
Thing is, any argument that happens is going to be over exaggerated and will be seen as bullying now, its ridiculous
Exactly, some petty arguement may now be seen as being bullying when in actual fact it is just some stupid squabble

Bells 28-05-2007 12:07 PM

Well, we'll just have to see about that when the series starts - it's best not to assume things now. :angel:

Sam 28-05-2007 12:12 PM

I can imagin headlines in the sun " And so the arguing starts!" and media is going to over exaggerate so I hope not

Conzors 29-05-2007 05:49 PM

Boring BB?
 
im sure his years big brother is not going to be boring but..

it says that there was a no bullying rule...

dont you think this will make it boring?

Arneldo 29-05-2007 05:50 PM

Yes, because everyone wants to see people be bullied on TV :bored::rolleyes:


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